Anyone not getting a booster?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

What are you reasons for not getting the booster?

"not sure how I feel about DCs having it, which looks inevitable? If not now but once they’re 5…"

How did you feel when they had all the OTHER vaccines they were routinely invited for well before they were 5? what's different and specially more worrying about this one?

I'm beginning to think we should give all our vaccine stocks to countries that can't afford it and would be grateful for it. Yes, why don't we do that? Brilliant. Then MN can stop whining on and on about how we've been offered this amazing medical tool to 'control' us and make us ill.

Comedycook only if you spend too much time on MN listening to them. Out in the real world it's quite different.

You should try the flat earth forums for a change (especially on youtube) where they all know the government are hiding the truth about us living in a snow globe.

Other place are full of people who know the moon landing was fake and so on.

The internet helps create echo chambers and when everyone around you is sure something is true you start to believe it.

@lightand

If this thread is at all representative of the general population , then there have been an amazing amount of people who have some sort of reaction to the vaccines.

With the vast number of people who have had 2 vaccines in a short space of time, it's not surprising a lot have had some sort of reaction. Most people I know felt crap for a few days, one was very poorly but would probably be similar if we all had flu jabs or other vaccines at the same time.

@LastTrainEast

Comedycook only if you spend too much time on MN listening to them. Out in the real world it's quite different.

You should try the flat earth forums for a change (especially on youtube) where they all know the government are hiding the truth about us living in a snow globe.

Other place are full of people who know the moon landing was fake and so on.

The internet helps create echo chambers and when everyone around you is sure something is true you start to believe it.

Yes because there's no middle ground between blindly believing every single thing the government says and believing the earth is flat...

@lightand Indeed!

No, and I havent had the first 2 either. Currently pregnant and recently had covid while pregnant and had barely any symptoms. Kids also had it - no symptoms. We only tested as DH had it. He was also fine albeit a little fatigued. He hasnt had any either.

@Hodl

Yes, in the development of the mRNA Pfizer Covid vax, HEK-293 cell line from the kidneys of an aborted girl fetus from Holland in1973 was used -an immortal cell line. Astra Zeneca and Moderna used the same cell line. The cells are not actually in the injection, but used for the development

I genuinely didn't know this.

That's because it's not true. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines do not use human cell lines. The AZ one does.

I don’t really see why it’s surprising people have reactions. Pretty much all medical treatment has side effects and when you vaccinate ..what 60 million people - it’s to be expected a fair few people will have side effects.

I did - mild covid arm for a few days - just itching and swelling but I’m fully intending to have my booster.

I know of nobody that’s had more than a sore harm and a headache/off colour for a day.

@ApplesinmyPocket

"not sure how I feel about DCs having it, which looks inevitable? If not now but once they’re 5…"

How did you feel when they had all the OTHER vaccines they were routinely invited for well before they were 5? what's different and specially more worrying about this one?

I'm beginning to think we should give all our vaccine stocks to countries that can't afford it and would be grateful for it. Yes, why don't we do that? Brilliant. Then MN can stop whining on and on about how we've been offered this amazing medical tool to 'control' us and make us ill.

Not British and am actually seriously contemplating bringing my mum over from my home country because boosters are not available there. Except she would probably catch Omicron on the flight.

@Now5sos

I've had shoulder and upper arm problems since my 2 vaccines, waiting for a physio appointment atm Can't raise my arm above shoulder height and have constant pain Been told this can happen with vaccines (Not just covid vaccine) but tbh I'm not too worried about covid

I got this but less severely than you from last years flu jab...its called SIRVA and its one of those "can happen" things. Mine kicked off when I got the flu jab november 2020 and it took until August to resolve. I didn't bother seeing anybody about it, just used pain relief and kept it mobile as much as I could.

I believe the first 2 jabs protected me at the time when I needed it for me and people around me. If I now need another jab based on new information like we do for the flu every year so be it

I felt a bit rubbish after my booster but would have the next one offered

If you want the data on mixing vaccines then look up the CovBoost study. It shows they are safe - and mixing vaccines boosts protection.
I’m amazed people think it’s a farce like it’s something we have control over. It’s a virus. They mutate, they can be horrible, we have to throw our medicines and science at it.
Other countries would kill to be in our position, instead their people will die on the streets.
How can it be mild if thousands are going to die? Mild for the majority.. not for everyone. And you don’t always know which camp you will fall into. Obviously

@Stiffcondomhat

At the moment it's a 45 minute drive each way to get a jab. Not taking time off work for it, so when they get round to offering it at my local surgery probably will.

I still don't get why I need a jab for something that's likely to be very mild for me though.

How have people still not got this into their heads?

It's not about whether or not you'll die from covid. It's about whether or not you'll die because you had a car crash and there wasn't space for you in A&E, or your child has an accident at home and bleeds to death because there's no ambulance, or your cancer doesn't get diagnosed because they've cancelled all the scans through staff shortages.

Thinking that covid is a problem for 'other people' is utterly delusional. If the NHS is overwhelmed, it affects everyone.

Every single person who gets boosted is helping to reduce the overall case levels and stop the balance tipping from 'just about manageable' to a complete catastrophe.

@DSGR

If you want the data on mixing vaccines then look up the CovBoost study. It shows they are safe - and mixing vaccines boosts protection. I’m amazed people think it’s a farce like it’s something we have control over. It’s a virus. They mutate, they can be horrible, we have to throw our medicines and science at it. Other countries would kill to be in our position, instead their people will die on the streets. How can it be mild if thousands are going to die? Mild for the majority.. not for everyone. And you don’t always know which camp you will fall into. Obviously

I do agree with you

but why, if this is the case, are there always more deaths per pop in the uk?
Higher and older population considered, it still makes people wonder.

@girlabouthome

They need to stop calling it a vaccine. It's not.

It's a drug.

Partially effective and one that we will have to continue to take.

Not anti vac by any stretch, I've had all mine, but there needs to be more transparency about its efficacy and frequency requirements.

Please could you please explain why it's not a vaccine?

I keep seeing this (usually from anti-vaxxers)

PopUpShop what do you mean? Most people on this thread have had 2 doses, hardly conspiracy theorists and antivaxers. You can hardly blame people who are low risk (and many have had covid already) being hesitant. The vaccines do come with risks and there are effects, particularly on menstrual cycles, that have barely been acknowledged, let alone studied. I think my period will probably stop altogether with my next dose! Most people here are saying they won’t be rushing to get a third dose, not that they definitely won’t. And we WILL all contract covid eventually, based or not, so like a pp said if you’ve had it already and know it’s mild for you is there a great need? Is that really thick? Sounds to me like weighing up all options.

UKHSA (where the quoted figures come from) are very clear that the data to date is based on small numbers and subject to significant uncertainty

So I've read - and this is why I'll probably get a booster, but not until there's reliable data, both on effectiveness and also on how long this one will last

As for those saying other jabs involve courses of three, babies have 6 in 1s and so on, the use and data on these is well established, and more to the point they're not licenced only for emergency use

@Benjispruce5

I know of nobody that’s had more than a sore harm and a headache/off colour for a day.

I has pfizer for my booster and it did knock me flat for 3 days and tired and drained for a few more.....but I had the same when I had the first over 65's flu jab with the adjuvant in. I do generally react to vaccines (and I have had a shedload over my adult life) Its a nuisance but better than real flu, which i have also had, and much better than covid which I hope never to get.

@MsWaffle

Haven't had the first 2 and won't be having the Booster Had Covid back in March 2020 so I've built up immunity Have never had a flu jab either in my 55 years Someone I know has just had her 4th vaccine as she has blood cancer Everyone should be given a choice on whether to get jabbed, unfortunately the choice is being taken away from us very slowly, it's a form of control

Well said! Fear is becoming the real virus. @MsWaffle

There is some strange thinking going on.
Comparing refusing to be vaccinated with being overweight is insane.
If I chose to eat a big Mac rather than a salad I am not going to kill you am I?
A better comparison would be comparing it with me deciding to inject heroin, then getting in my car and driving at 90 mph along the M62. Crashing into another car and driving off, leaving the occupants to die.
And yes, the occupants of the other car made the decision to go out that day. However they didn't bank on encountering me and my "I'm alright Jack" attitude.
Bizarrely I do know of staunch anti vaxers, who do take drugs, totally unaware of what shit they are putting into their bodies as apparently £20 worth of crap from the local dealer is far safer than a vaccine recommended by a scientist.........

It's not about whether or not you'll die from covid. It's about whether or not you'll die because you had a car crash and there wasn't space for you in A&E

i would also suggest this is largely due to cuts in our health service over the pat 30 years. The elephant in the room. At present we need not even be overwhelmed if successive govs had not starved the service.

Now, we pay for it, even though we already pay for the NHS.
It is like we all buy a house and one person sells it and keeps all the money, not giving the shareholders their part.

Unbelievable
Covid is not mild for everyone
Even people who are fit and healthy get covid and some die
Hospitals have plentry of unvaccinated people with covid
Yes the vaccinated can still get covid and pass covid on but it probably won't be as severe as if they were vaccinated
It seems short- sighted to worry about long term effects if you won't be here to worry about them
People waiting for big operations necessitating an ITU bed might not get it if there are unvaccinated people occupying those beds.
Unvaccinated people in hospital with covid have asked to be vaccinated
If the side effects made you feel ill covid would very well be worse
I don't understand the reluctance

Thanks for the BHF link- interesting reading

I'll probably get it in the new year, I'll only accept 3 though. Most childhood vacations come in 3s so to me that's normal. Any more than a considered yearly booster like flu and I'll probably wait until they have a finish product...

I had my second vaccine in September, then had covid 3 weeks ago so not in a rush at the moment.