65% of hospitalisations are vaccinated.

[Twotone]

fullfact.org/health/economist-vaccination-status/?s=09

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HOW is people’s understanding of really basic stats so piss poor?

Well I see that as positive tbh. Since a higher percentage of people are vaccinated than 65% it indicates that vaccines are keeping people out of hospital.
Also bear in mind older people have higher vaccination rates and older people are more likely to end up in hospital.
I think I read somewhere that vaccination reduces your age related risk by 30 years or so.
So a vaccinated 45 year old has a similar risk profile to an unvaccinated 15 year old.
Thank God for Vaccines.

I'd rather thank scientists, and all the people - nhs, volunteers etc - who've made vaccines a delivered reality!

@bumbleymummy

The incredible (positive) impact of the vaccination rollout is very evident in these two graphs (from www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/)

If you genuinely can’t see this impact from these graphs or understand the explanation as to why the OP’s title is very misleading there is little point in further engagement.

From The Timex report
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Between July and November, NHS England said that 150 patients were referred for extracorporeal membrane oxygenation, or Ecmo, where blood is cycled through an artificial lung machine before returning it to the body. Of these patients, only 6 per cent had been fully vaccinated.

The treatment is usually reserved for younger patients and is a last-ditch effort to buy their bodies time to recover from the virus.

You nailed it @Scautish.

@ErrolTheDragon quite.

The vast majority of car accidents with injuries/fatalities, seat belts were used... Does that mean seat belts are dangerous or useless?

The vast majority of those who died of exposure were wearing clothes...does that
mean clothes don't protect against the cold?

[quote Twotone]fullfact.org/health/economist-vaccination-status/?s=09[/quote]
Excellent, ideally we want 100% of those hospitalised to be vaccinated as it would mean 100% of the population had received their vaccination!

Thanks for sharing the good news 👍🏻

@ErrolTheDragon why not say that overweight/obese people are blocking operations if over 80% of people in icu are overweight/obese? Perhaps a more focussed campaign about being at increased risk if you have a higher BMI would encourage more overweight/obese people to be vaccinated -even if they’re young.

@SLH2003 Nope. You just don’t want to answer the question. It makes perfect sense to discuss that people with higher BMIs currently make up the majority in icu with covid.

Scautish, not sure why you’re sending me charts. Where have I said that vaccines don’t reduce the risk of hospitalisation? You’re having an argument with yourself here.

As about 81% of the eligible population have had two doses, it is good news that they are under-represented in hospital admissions.

V clear explanations about Simpson’s paradox by pp. This article also explains and shows using a Ghostbusters analogy…. www.covid-datascience.com/post/is-watching-the-1984-ghostbusters-movie-killing-people-a-statistician-s-perspective

@bumbleymummy

Scautish, not sure why you’re sending me charts. Where have I said that vaccines don’t reduce the risk of hospitalisation? You’re having an argument with yourself here.

About 20 minutes ago on this very thread.

Your gaslighting skills only slightly better than your maths.

Ummmm… your comprehension skills are a bit crap if you think that says anything about vaccines not reducing the risk of hospitalisation :)

The vaccines do reduce the risk of serious illness/hospitalisation but age is still the biggest risk factor so many elderly vaccinated people still end up in hospital. Many of those elderly patients can not be discharged because there is nowhere for them to go (not helped by firing care workers when there was already a shortage). So, as I actually said in that post you quoted, it isn’t really the unvaccinated that are overwhelming the hospitals. My math is fine, thanks :)

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I’ll take that as an apology.

[quote Twotone]fullfact.org/health/economist-vaccination-status/?s=09[/quote]
But 90% of those in ICU beds are unvaccinated.

Yep. So can we stop saying that hospitals are ‘being overwhelmed by unvaccinated people’ now please?

Oh for crying out loud!!! Maybe stop and do some thinking before making such a ridiculous statement.

If you breathe oxygen, you will die.

@gofg it’s not ridiculous. How can a minority be responsible for the ‘overwhelming’ ? you may need to read my other posts in case you’re misinterpreting that comment too. What is currently causing massive problems in hospitals is not being able to discharge recovered elderly patients because there’s nowhere for them to go.

@bumbleymummy

Over 80% of people in icu are overweight/obese. Curious to hear your thoughts.

Could you post your source please? Same with the below:

What is currently causing massive problems in hospitals is not being able to discharge recovered elderly patients because there’s nowhere for them to go.

Thanks

Actually she failed to read the other thread title correctly and plopped this fact on there. When it didn't get the desired response due to failure to read thread correctly she started a new thread.