Anti vaxxers question *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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Watching the local news last week our local hospitals ITU is 6/8 full with covid patients. All unvaccinated. Youngest is 20 with no underlying heath conditions. I am continually hearing about covid patients in or just out of ITU saying 'I wish I'd got the jab'.

How do you (as an anti vaxxer) reconcile your attitude but still expecting to be treated in ITU? If they said ' right, no jab, no ITU bed' would you still refuse the vaccine?

What would it (genuinely) take for you to have the jab having seen all the other anti vaxxers encouraging people to have it after realising how ill they were?

[quote outofittt]@XenoBitch which is worse making a website reporting deaths or providing false information which causes the deaths in the first place? Who cares less, the website makers or the antivaxxers parading their nonsensical agenda causing infections? I haven’t looked at the website and don’t want to but I assume it’s grim as they are trying to deter antivaxxers[/quote]
I agree. I have looked at the website.

The website reporting deaths shares the previous anti vax/vaccine spreading rubbish of people who have since died of covid. Some appear to be merely misinformed and repeating rubbish and others are spreading extremely dangerous and inaccurate information. These people have died or been significantly impacted by covid when they caught it. The website uses screenshots of their previous posting history (anti vax/misinformation etc).
The website also posts screenshots of family saying they are ill with covid and obituaries. It's a waste of life and if one person reads and realises that some of these 'lunatics' because some of them are might worry you into a choice that impacts your life negatively then that's a positive.

What I didn't like about the website is schadenfreude with the positive oh well they died because of their stupid choices. Some of them rally were conned by the rubbish they shared and don't appear too bright. Others are intelligent but have their own agendas so share anti vax stuff and then ended up dying.

Some of the posts from the bereaved families is heart-breaking. What a waste of life and so avoidable.

So what is worse sharing anti vax nonsense that someone might believe and end up seriously ill or dead or sharing stories of the deaths of people from covid who are anti vax and/or didn't believe in covid etc?

23 out of 270 is a pretty normal miscarriage rate, lower than average (but presumably some of them were past the first trimester anyway).