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Data, Stats, Daily Numbers started 14th November 2021

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boys3 · 14/11/2021 17:51

Welcome to the DATA thread.

Our preference is for actual, data driven and analytical contributions.
Please try to keep discussion focused on these

Our links below probably need a refresh ready for the festive season,. so all reasonable suggestions welcome.

UK govt press conferences slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
PHE Variants of Concern Technical Briefings www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201
PHE Vaccine efficacy www.gov.uk/government/publications/phe-monitoring-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination
SAGE : Minutes and Models www.gov.uk/government/collections/scientific-evidence-supporting-the-government-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ includes R estimates
PHE Weekly Flu & Covid Surveiilance Reports 2021-22 Season www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2021-to-2022-season
Dashboard Vaccine Map to MSOA level coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
Sanger Genome Maps & Data covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw
UCL Virus Watch ucl-virus-watch.net/
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Sewage www.gov.uk/government/publications/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-19-may-2021-emhp-programme/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-the-environmental-monitoring-for-health-protection-emhp-programme.
Sewage reports www.gov.uk/government/publications/monitoring-of-sars-cov-2-rna-in-england-wastewater-monthly-statistics-june-2021
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHS England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSOA Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

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riveted1 · 05/12/2021 12:00

@Piggywaspushed

Is there a rule that people have to be objective?
People in general no, scientists with a large twitter following or who are part of a body like JCVI, SAGE or iSAGE, perhaps there is an argument for yes
manolantern · 05/12/2021 12:02

@Piggywaspushed

What's Greenhalgh's 'political ideology'?
Zero Covid / Covid is Airborne / Tories Are Scum / PANIC!!!
Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:03

I SAGE not sure about. Science is not objective. It's impossible for it to be so.

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:04

Three of those are not political ideologies. You are the one who seems biased in all honesty mano.

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:07

Am assuming 'eminent' was sarcastic but, for the record, Trish Greenhalgh is an extraordinarily intelligent and garlanded academic.

Has she tweeted those things you said mano because I haven't noticed.

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:07

While I'm at it , Covid is airborne.

MarshaBradyo · 05/12/2021 12:11

I think iSAGE have political leanings - similar to The Guardian

JCVI and MHRA more rigour but still need processes like any group

SAGE a bit of a mix but mostly follow remit which is case reduction led and informs Whitty and co

Mostly I align with and agree with Whitty and Vallance

manolantern · 05/12/2021 12:18

I wasn't using the word "eminent" sarcastically. If I were then I wouldn't have a point to make.

I guess it's been said already a few posts back, but scientists are human beings and capable of acting unscientifically, emotionally, and just plain badly. And Twitter brings out the worst in lots of people.

I do think it's ironic though that some scientists who you would expect to be very "on board" with mental health issues, are themselves very cavalier with the mental health of their Twitter followers, by retweeting spurious and alarmist accounts.

But anyway... As usual the answer is probably that Twitter is a hellhole and if these things are winding me up then I need to log off it myself!

Firefliess · 05/12/2021 12:19

@Piggywaspushed

While I'm at it , Covid is airborne.
That's one where I think the evidence has very much emerged over the last two years. And possible that the original strain was not airborne but the later ones more so. I do find it frustrating that it doesn't seem possible to actually be sure on this (can't you just somehow magnify it and watch it?!! Clearly not, I'm not a biologist and obviously don't understand this properly!)

Zero covid, on the other hand, was initially something worth discussing, but after about March 2020 it became obvious to all rational people was no longer a possibility in a UK context. Still holding onto that as a goal strikes me as demonstrating an inability to adjust to new information.

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:22

@MarshaBradyo

I think iSAGE have political leanings - similar to The Guardian

JCVI and MHRA more rigour but still need processes like any group

SAGE a bit of a mix but mostly follow remit which is case reduction led and informs Whitty and co

Mostly I align with and agree with Whitty and Vallance

Most of ISage are on the SpiB advisory group though and are actually very close in views to SAGE, The difference id the I bit I guess.

Whitty and Vallance never express opinions (nor should they) so it is good to encounter scientist unpicking SAGE minutes, discussions and government decisions. Vallance and Whitty/ SAGE have got things wrong, of course, so that is where there is place for debate form all angles. That's what Cummings got a bit carried away with! It must be v frustrating sometimes being W and V. I still remember the nurse who never reappeared at a press conference after her answer to the Cummings question.

MRex · 05/12/2021 12:25

There was a fascinating article about why the medical profession and its related scientists have all been screwed up in their understanding of "airborne" for decades, basically because biologists didn't understand physics, nor consult with physicists about actual travel distances based on weight and airflow. The misunderstandingsc were only identified during the covid pandemic because physicists we're finally interested enough to look. Might have been NY Times. I'll go and find it.

herecomesthsun · 05/12/2021 12:26

Is this "attack female professors day"?

We have a ferociously right wing and incompetent government. That is actually a fairly objective statement, there has been a massive swing right of centre and the incompetence across many spheres is well documented.

They did manage to put an intelligent woman in charge of buying vaccines, yes.

We also have a ferociously right wing gutter press, with a few honourable exceptions.

It is great that popular media allows alternative views to be discussed and some of those views are extremely well informed academics at the top of their game.

Trish Greenhalgh is a Professor of Primary Care Health Sciences and Fellow of Green Templeton College at the University of Oxford. She is a GP who also is trained in diabetic medicine. She has written extensively in the BMJ, she is pretty well thought of and in the mainstream of medical opinion, in case you wondered.

What is it with all the "in feminam" attacks on brilliant women academics?

Ohsofedupwiththis · 05/12/2021 12:28

I don't actually care what a scientists political leanings are if it doesn't determine the conclusions they come too.

I don't think we would be in a much different place if we had a Labour govt for instance. I would think these scientists would be saying the same things.

MRex · 05/12/2021 12:33

Here's the article I meant: www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/.

This one is also interesting in talking more about the WHO politics of the debate: www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2021/05/28/who-wrong-airborne-coronavirus/.

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:37

Thanks MRex. Fascinating.

MRex · 05/12/2021 12:40

As we're naming bias, both those articles have politics criticism, but note that while Wired leans left and Forbes leans right, they both try to remain fairly centre... And on this topic come to the same conclusions from different sources.

MarshaBradyo · 05/12/2021 12:41

I still remember the nurse who never reappeared at a press conference after her answer to the Cummings question.

This rings a faint bell, but remind me what did she ask?

The whole Cummings saga did annoy me at the time.

I don’t think Whitty / Vallance have made many mistakes - although I’d love to ask questions on some stuff (timing and vaccinations)

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:43

It reminds me of the Victorian blinkered obsession with miasma but the opposite way round. It took a few scientists, and the likes of Florence Nightingale to say ' just wash your hands and don't drink the water!'. 'Sewers would be good'.

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:44

@MarshaBradyo

I still remember the nurse who never reappeared at a press conference after her answer to the Cummings question.

This rings a faint bell, but remind me what did she ask?

The whole Cummings saga did annoy me at the time.

I don’t think Whitty / Vallance have made many mistakes - although I’d love to ask questions on some stuff (timing and vaccinations)

She didn't ask anything. She was asked whether she believed Cummings was right in what he did and she said n. She was the Chief Nurse but her name escapes me.
Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 12:48

I think we will find out a LOT in the public enquiry marsha. I know is was very early days but Champions League, Cheltenham and an early adherence to easily achieved. herd immunity all spring to mind. They have moved on, thankfully, but those were definitely errors, as what Whitty doubting the GBP's adherence to a lockdown (not listening to SpiB) which delayed the first lockdown.

This is not to say I don't have huge admiration for those people dealing with extraordinary things.

MarshaBradyo · 05/12/2021 12:49

Oh right. I was so annoyed over that weekend 😂

I noticed Cons support fell around March April time but I can’t remember when he did it

Maybe it was other stuff of course

MRex · 05/12/2021 12:56

Liverpool, Cheltenham and Cummings are all clear errors. Two should have been cancelled and one sacked.

Not sure even Boris disputes that does he?

There should have been more and more effective PPE in the country's stores, but there wasn't, and getting hold of it during a global pandemic would be unlikely to have progressed better under another administration. The French would still have nicked some, the Germans would still have banned export, the Chinese and Turks would still have sent shit etc.

MarshaBradyo · 05/12/2021 12:58

Tbh I would have been ok with an apology and admission

The whole saga with his press talk and refusal on above was nuts

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2021 13:05

Lots of data in the ever wonderful Sarah Rasmussen's thread here. Some explanations towards the end!

twitter.com/SarahDRasmussen/status/1467225412975710213

MRex · 05/12/2021 13:07

Ruth May was the Chief Nurse, she said to MPs that she was dropped from one briefing and missed another site to being stuck in traffic: www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ruth-may-dropped-downing-street-press-briefing-a4503666.html?amp.
Worth noting that Van Tam was also publicly clear and precise that the rules applied to Cummings, but he is still highly present. He does seem to speak the most calmly and appropriately on all topics I find.