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How many of you will comply?

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LifesTooShortYOLO · 21/10/2021 10:34

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

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einekleinenachtarbeit · 21/10/2021 18:39

Righto. Fuck the already knackered staff then basically. Just hope you remain healthy and well.

Backofbeyond50 · 21/10/2021 18:40

I will comply but don't think it will happen

Waxonwaxoff0 · 21/10/2021 18:45

@einekleinenachtarbeit

Righto. Fuck the already knackered staff then basically. Just hope you remain healthy and well.
Again, not my responsibility. It's for the government to sort out. I barely use the NHS anyway and the only time I've been in hospital was when I gave birth, so I personally won't be clogging up the system. I had Covid in August so the odds of me getting it and passing it on this winter are very slim.
frazzlesmore · 21/10/2021 18:48

It's easy enough saying I wouldn't comply but what if ICUs do become full of covid/flu patients ? Would you just carry on mixing and socialising despite advice not to ?

I say I will but the reality is if I became fearful for parents for example I would scale right back.

thewhatsit · 21/10/2021 18:49

[quote onlychildhamster]@TheBlackArt in the first lockdown, my SIL's neighbour either got fined or a caution for helping his mum trim his tree. This was in manchester.

I would be wary as my MIL lives in a terrace and there is a few HMO tenants just a few doors which doesn't like us very much. Maybe the police wouldnt' come if they do decide to call, but there is a chance we would encounter an overzealous policeman. And I would feel so embarrassed about causing my MIL to get a fine she can't really afford to pay (and she probably wouldn't let me pay).[/quote]
I think the thing is, by the third lockdown there were so many “bubble” you could legally be in that it wasn’t as straight forward as the first lockdown. Bubbles never had to be registered anywhere and you were allowed to switch who you were in a bubble with as many times as you wanted (supposedly isolating in between).

You could be in a support bubble with a single person or single mother, but who is to know that you aren’t? - if you go over to see parents on your own then as far anyone is concerned, you are single. Also childcare bubble - most people I know seemed to use that to have their parents over socially, as they’d all chip in playing with children. So you could visit family, even as a couple, with kids in tow and say that your parents are babysitting while you do odd jobs 🤷‍♀️ Then there was the extra bubble for people with babies less than 1 year where your whole household could bubble with another one (and change that bubble repeatedly).
And if that wasn’t enough, by the 3rd lockdown you were allowed to meet up outside for exercise purposes Hmm anyway and you were allowed to leave home for any work that couldn’t be done at home, so you’d either say that tree cutting was exercise or that you were doing a job for your parent 🤷‍♀️

The whole thing became so ludicrous by the end because of trying to make it fair that as long as you didn’t have a house party, I reckon you could pretty much do as you wanted.

HarryLimeFoxtrot · 21/10/2021 18:51

@einekleinenachtarbeit

What will people do if the NHS is overwhelmed again ? It's easy enough saying I wouldn't comply but what if ICUs do become full of covid/flu patients ? Would you just carry on mixing and socialising despite advice not to ?
Yes. I would. Not with a large pool of people, but I’m not going back to a point of not seeing anyone outside my household indoors ever, ever again. Just another household would do - something people eligible for a support bubble were allowed anyway last time around.
flippertyop · 21/10/2021 18:51

Nope I won't comply

Pan2 · 21/10/2021 18:53

I don't think people really understand what overwhelming the NHS actually looks like. It doesn't take a lot but imagine for a few minutes. And have a reconsideration of masks or not.

zen1 · 21/10/2021 18:53

No I won’t comply. The Government need to sort out the NHS by pumping a lot more money in, recruiting staff and building more hospitals. That is the only realistic way of ‘saving’ the NHS long term. I was watching a documentary (Blair and Brown) a couple of days ago and there was a clip from the news in the late nineties about how the NHS was overwhelmed due to flu and there were no beds etc (I was working in the NHS at the time and remember it well).

Imnothereforthedrama · 21/10/2021 18:57

Absolutely not I work with someone who refuses to get vaccinated, recently come down with symptoms but refuses to get a pcr .lord knows why probably because doesn’t want to isolate.
I’ve isolated numerous times but people like my colleague won’t do it . I refuse to comply to protect these idiots is all for yourself I'm afraid . I sympathise for those that are at risk I really do but with the government’s mixed messaging all along and the hypocrisy it’s all just going to be ignored .

Slub · 21/10/2021 18:58

Not a chance!

YouokHun · 21/10/2021 18:59

@PowerhouseOfTheCell

Didn’t comply last Christmas and now have a terminally ill relative so no one will be keeping me away from them this Christmas
So sorry @PowerhouseOfTheCell, I was in your situation last Christmas.

I was and still am “compliant”; jabs, masks (still wearing them in the shops etc), booster jabs, social distancing etc but last Christmas was, we knew, going to be my DF’s last after a horrible year of isolation and not being able to see people or visit places or receive the medical care he needed - no way was I not seeing my parents at Christmas. Had anyone policed me on Christmas morning as I went to collect them I think I would have lost it completely.

My DF died in March, it was a horrible death because he didn’t get the care he needed. It’s left my DM deeply traumatised and there is no way I will comply at Christmas with household mixing rules if they appear, if it means leaving my DM on her own at Christmas for the first time in 60 years.

We have more tools at our disposal this year now we have tests available and vaccines and I think we have to use them wisely to preserve the mental health of our loved ones and ourselves. We don’t have to abandon good sense to do that.

flippertyop · 21/10/2021 18:59

@HayzCo my life and that of my daughters will be far more effected by the lose of their status as females, the ability to classify themselves and their needs. Their reproductive sex and the rights that come with that, than we ever will by Covid.

onlychildhamster · 21/10/2021 19:01

@thewhatsit i don't have babies or kids, thats the problem. It would be DH and I visiting her. We could say DH has moved semi-permanently to his mum's house to help her repair her house, while i stay at our flat as a single , but that never sounded like a good explanation.

BluebellsGreenbells · 21/10/2021 19:03

Imnothereforthedrama

What’s your works policy on covid?

DH has to wfh if there’s a case at home, other close contacts have to do a PCR - our government guidelines are LFT for 7 days if close contact but can’t insist and don’t insist on PCR but companies can make it as part of their rules.

DandyHighwayWoman · 21/10/2021 19:03

I would comply

nanabow · 21/10/2021 19:06

Not a chance.

I complied through all the lockdowns with my first newborn DD. My next DD is due soon and I will not be doing it again.

Parents need support and children need socialisation. Grandparents often need company.

Cakeofdoom · 21/10/2021 19:06

Not a fucking chance

Imnothereforthedrama · 21/10/2021 19:10

@BluebellsGreenbells

Imnothereforthedrama

What’s your works policy on covid?

DH has to wfh if there’s a case at home, other close contacts have to do a PCR - our government guidelines are LFT for 7 days if close contact but can’t insist and don’t insist on PCR but companies can make it as part of their rules.

No rule as can’t insist on pcr . Fortunately employer suggested colleague not coming in so at least won’t pass around work . I actually wish there was a policy at least people would know where they are at . I just think it’s common sense you have symptoms take a test .
nanabow · 21/10/2021 19:10

That said I would comply with compulsory mask wearing.

If it came to it and it was clear it wasn't mainly unvaccinated dying then I'd be open to a rule of 6 or 2 households mixing in private properties.

frazzlesmore · 21/10/2021 19:21

I would prioritise socialising with family over friends & we did that at xmas last year so broke the rules although we did all self isolate for 2 wks prior as wanted to protect vulnerable parent. So still mixing but much much smaller pool.

TheSunIsStillShining · 21/10/2021 19:24

These threads make me depressed more than anything...

  1. Do ppl realize that it is not an all/in type of scenario? Or it shouldn't have to be at least. There are mitigating measures which are used and proven around the world. But english ppl are exceptional, so obviously won't do any of it.
  2. calling for more funding for the NHS... you do realize that it means more tax?

Why are ppl not up in arms about:

  1. Gov funneling billions! to friends&family?
  2. being willfully negligent re:public health by design. They either don't care or actively want ppl to die.
  3. They are enabling/creating the user base for a privatized healthcare system. Both in terms of making waiting lists effing long + all the potential long-covid patients who might need treatments or doctors for many months or their entire life
  4. They do all this under the pretense of having executive power "to do right quickly" because of covid. And yet they are not even acting the least bit regarding covid.
  5. They are also systematically destroying the educational sector (more so than previously)
  6. Should we mention companies who are actually making physical things that they used to sell ...let's say... in the EU?
  7. Should we mention that the financial sector - that produces hot air and numbers on papers are the real beneficiaries of this current gov? Oh, and some major India based companies, who by chance happen to be owned by the Chancellor's FIL....

And the narrow minded, petty people of england (not everyone is like that of course, but the majority is) are up in arms about having to wear a fucking mask. They are happy to send their kids into mosh pits called schools unvaccinated instead of insisting on making things better.

I don't want another lockdown either, but what do ppl think will be an option if they actively refuse the small stuff? There will be no other option. Do ppl really need to be told to wear a mask, stay 2m away from others, limit indoor activities if possible? This is common sense!!! Just because you don't use the NHS, or you had covid already doesn't mean that you should not be a responsible person within the society/community you live in.

On one hand I hear the arguments against the nanny state and yet it has been proven many times over that ppl left to their own devices are selfish pricks.

WitchyNameChange · 21/10/2021 19:28

No, I won't. Never, ever again.

lljkk · 21/10/2021 19:37

MN is the place where Labour won by a landslide in 2019 -- according to the voting intention threads.

Just saying.

Mummylewi · 21/10/2021 19:40

I'd comply.

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