How many of you will comply?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

@TheBlackArt in the first lockdown, my SIL's neighbour either got fined or a caution for helping his mum trim his tree. This was in manchester.

I would be wary as my MIL lives in a terrace and there is a few HMO tenants just a few doors which doesn't like us very much. Maybe the police wouldnt' come if they do decide to call, but there is a chance we would encounter an overzealous policeman. And I would feel so embarrassed about causing my MIL to get a fine she can't really afford to pay (and she probably wouldn't let me pay).

No of course not.
But they would get some (just like last time. Those women who went for a walk, drones flying over beauty spots, people accosted on park benches etc etc. Surely people haven't forgotten all of that already? How many threads were there about cases in the news? Loads.) and it would just be my luck that I'd step out of the house one time and get collared. 😁

It's theoretical anyway cos I'm cev and agoraphobic so going out is just wishful thinking at the best of times. 😁

@TheBlackArt really bad grammar. * there are a few HMO tenants just a few doors who don't like us very much

I will comply. DH is vulnerable, MIL & FIL live far away and we never meet at Christmas, my mum was in our support bubble when they were a thing so would resume that.

Most fines in the first lockdowns were overturned or dramatically reduced at court where people challenged them. Plus I don’t think police had power of entry into private dwellings to check for rule breakers. There were also many exemptions from the rules which people weren’t generally aware of.

I won’t comply. No way am I not seeing family and friends again. I don’t think it’s right for more restrictions we need to live with this now.

I don't think so. I've literally just had covid, as well as having been double jabbed. So has my dd (single jabbed teen) and my dh (double jabbed adult).

Don't think we're much risk to anyone.

I thought the idea of mass vacinnations was to avoid having to have restrictions again. Once again the narrative changes.

There were 14 £10k fines in Northants, just 2 of these were fined and were £660 and £120 much to the disappointment of Northants Police

I’d comply where I had to, I can’t make a business let me in without showing a vaccine passport for example. But I cannot describe how much I loathe the idea of them - and I’m not anti vax, I volunteered for the vaccine trials, volunteered at vaccine centres, and got my jabs as soon as I could so I’m about as far from anti-vax as you can get.

I wouldn’t comply with restrictions on socialising.

I won't comply.
One of the darkest times in my life was having our second child in December, nurseries here shut shortly afterwards so ds1 was then stuck at home upset and angry about not seeing his friends, out of his routine, new sibling etc, dh couldn't take paternity leave, I was suffering from a postnatal infection and had no support as no close family would visit due to lockdown. I was establishing breastfeeding with a severely tongue tied baby, no support from the nhs.
I was slipping into post natal depression and I think it's affected the way I bonded with ds2.
I pulled myself out of the depths in early spring by reaching out to other local mums to go for walks. Our local toddler group only re-opened a few weeks ago and the ones in church halls have never re-opened.
One particularly low moment was driving to M&S just for something to do (breaking the law) and ds1 was just so happy to be somewhere different and kept saying how nice everything was in the shop. Afterwards we just sat in the car on the driveway while I summoned the strength to go back in the house.

As far as I can see, we've pretty much played all our cards and have no significant new solutions that'll solve covid. Lockdowns just enable the government to continue to under-resource the NHS.

Exactly. And because of the combination of years of underinvestment, the last decade with a view to privatising through the back door, and the impact of the pandemic, I no longer believe there's a way through this that doesn't involve significant risk of some kind of health service breakdown.

In answer to the question, I don't care if masks are brought back. I don't mind wearing one. For other restrictions, no I won't be complying. I had visitors in my home and went to other people's as I judged appropriate in the last one, but this time I may go further and use the businesses that were illegally operating in my area too. I'd prefer to use them when they operate legally and pay taxes, of course, but if the state take that option away so be it. The risk of being caught is minute, especially as there's no reason to imagine the police will have the right of entry into private homes for covid regulations breaches, and not enough to act as a deterrent of any kind.

Yes I will comply!

Currently have a FIL who needs access to the NHS for cancer treatment, DS who also needs NHS treatment and has suffered due to appointments being rescheduled as a direct result of Covid! As this is taking so much longer his MH is really suffering!!

Ok if you’ve got Private healthcare not so good if you require the NHS!

So yes, I won’t just think about my own needs but others too!

@shouldistop

I won't comply. One of the darkest times in my life was having our second child in December, nurseries here shut shortly afterwards so ds1 was then stuck at home upset and angry about not seeing his friends, out of his routine, new sibling etc, dh couldn't take paternity leave, I was suffering from a postnatal infection and had no support as no close family would visit due to lockdown. I was establishing breastfeeding with a severely tongue tied baby, no support from the nhs. I was slipping into post natal depression and I think it's affected the way I bonded with ds2. I pulled myself out of the depths in early spring by reaching out to other local mums to go for walks. Our local toddler group only re-opened a few weeks ago and the ones in church halls have never re-opened. One particularly low moment was driving to M&S just for something to do (breaking the law) and ds1 was just so happy to be somewhere different and kept saying how nice everything was in the shop. Afterwards we just sat in the car on the driveway while I summoned the strength to go back in the house.

I won't comply.

Got extremely depressed sticking religiously to the rules through the last lockdowns, struggling home alone with my SN child and no support, while seeing/hearing my neighbours all openly mixing with their friends/relatives as they pleased, as well as several other people I know not sticking to the rules and doing what they wanted. And don't get me started on the way the politicians broke their own rules! not doing it again

@Whammyyammy

I see the mask lovers are frothing at the mouth again. If you like a comfort blanket on your face then crack on, I won't be.

mask lovers frothing comfort blanket

Obviously determined to show yourself up.

@crouchingpheasant

I won't comply.

Got extremely depressed sticking religiously to the rules through the last lockdowns, struggling home alone with my SN child and no support, while seeing/hearing my neighbours all openly mixing with their friends/relatives as they pleased, as well as several other people I know not sticking to the rules and doing what they wanted. And don't get me started on the way the politicians broke their own rules! not doing it again

Talking about another lockdown or social restrictions by the way. I still wear a mask, and will continue to do so, and ensure windows are open etc if socialising indoors.

What will people do if the NHS is overwhelmed again ? It's easy enough saying I wouldn't comply but what if ICUs do become full of covid/flu patients ? Would you just carry on mixing and socialising despite advice not to ?

I still wear a mask when in shops and crowded areas, such a small thing and hardly restrictive, I don't understand why we don't go back to using them.

I would also follow rules about not mixing households if that was brought back but I would really struggle if Christmas got cancelled again. I really can't wait for my proper family Christmas.

It's complicated. I know my dm will be careful but she won't stop visiting us this time. She's double jabbed and not vulnerable but she's 78. I don't think she thinks there's much to live for without seeing the dds and I.

However my 8 year old has a best friend with a very compromised sibling and covid ripped dd and her apart and it was v hard on them. I wouldn't do anything to put their child at risk. They nearly lost that child over and over.

It's all so fucking hard.

@HayzCo

Is no one concerned that with limited compliance with the basics they’ll go on to bigger restrictions, like shutting restaurant and bars again?

Also, people who would happily see this government continue because of the Labour party’s position on transgender rights.. absolute madness. Get a fucking life

I'm perfectly prepared to comply with Plan B which I think should be brought in now.

Couldn't agree more with your last sentence.

@einekleinenachtarbeit

What will people do if the NHS is overwhelmed again ? It's easy enough saying I wouldn't comply but what if ICUs do become full of covid/flu patients ? Would you just carry on mixing and socialising despite advice not to ?

I think people think that it won't affect them, or that somehow if things really got that bad the government would be able to solve it by chucking money at staffing etc. It won't do anything, there isn't an NHS back up emergency plan, this is it. Yes it's the government's fault, that doesn't really help individuals does it.

No chance

Hmm, tricky one. I am just going to be as sensible as I have always been. For example I'm going to a large event this weekend so I won't mix with my parents the following week. If they close businesses I have no choice but to comply.

@einekleinenachtarbeit

What will people do if the NHS is overwhelmed again ? It's easy enough saying I wouldn't comply but what if ICUs do become full of covid/flu patients ? Would you just carry on mixing and socialising despite advice not to ?

Yes. Saving the NHS is not my responsibility.