If you do not want your 12-15 yr old to have the vaccine but are vaccinated yourself, why?

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Just reading through the Will your 12-15 be vaccinated thread. If you are vaccinated, but do not want your 12-15 year old to have due to low risk if they catch it, what age would be the ideal time to get it?

People were doing the same then as now as far as I can remember

But we weren’t; there was social distancing, contact and household isolations, masks, a ban on large scale events, various degrees on restrictions of international travel and quarantines. All of that has been stopped now for a number of weeks bar travel restrictions (which I’m not up to date on at all tbh).

But as far as transmission goes then they generally don't really seem to help that much, or if they do it's only minimal

I don’t know if that can be true when you look at the graphs I posted (from worldometer btw). There has been no huge, unstoppable rise in cases like we’ve seen previously, testing numbers have remained fairly consistent too afaik, I genuinely can’t see what else that’s due to if not vaccines.

People who were CEV were told to shield till 1st August.

I was a bit puzzled as to why at the time.

However, while it may have kept cases down a bit, it would have helped rather more with keeping hospitalisations and deaths low.

Possibly, this set things up better for persuading teachers and parents that schools should re-open in September.

This year we also had the "Freedom Day" with all the rhetoric of it being irreversible, plus Euro football matches, concerts and festivals over the summer.

We are also no longer being required so formally to wear masks or social distance in supermarkets etc.

[quote BlueBlancmange]@labtest57

Here are some accounts of other people who felt very strongly about protecting their bodily autonomy. Unfortunately Covid didn't respect their bodily autonomy and now they are no longer here to worry about it.

www.sorryantivaxxer.com[/quote]
And, purely for balance, here are some accounts of people who didn't protect their bodily autonomy. Unfortunately the vaccine didn't respect their bodily autonomy either...

www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/

It's okay though. Pfizer have got immunity!

@NailsNeedDoing

Because they are already at very low risk from complications from covid, so there’s no point in risking their health with a vaccine. I know that the vaccine had an effect on my periods, which isn’t nice but is fine for someone who has had all their children, but we have no evidence that it would be safe for people going through puberty.

I think you are only counted as fully vaccinated after 2 weeks post 2nd dose. This may account for the figures somewhat. Anything that happens until these 2 weeks are up are classified as unvaccinated.

@IncredulousOne

It's okay though. Pfizer have got immunity!

This ......

But at least these people did what they felt they had to do for the greater good right. Acceptable collateral damage I heard a TV expert say. These cases were within the acceptable range for damage. Unless it happens to you of course, then you're on your own. No keyboard warriors are there for you.

www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/Module_Vaccine_description.pdf?ua=1

From the WHO

"69
These vaccines are based on mRNA coding for the antigenic protein that is generated in vitro and 70
encased with suitable material (e.g. lipid-based nanoparticle emulsion) that assures the delivery into 71
the cell. The potential for integration into host cell DNA poses a theoretical risk; however, studies to 72
date have shown that no retrovirus elements are available for their reverse transcription into DNA.17,18
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mRNA has been proven to be stimulate innate immunity, therefore immune-mediated adverse events 74
are also possible with this type of vaccine. Residual molecules, originating from raw materials, could 75
induce unexpected immune responses.18"

All vaccine manufactures have indemnity for their vaccines. It is part of the agreement to use them. Without the waiver, they would not allow them to be used. How motivated are they to produce a safe product if you're not held liable for outcomes?

Anyway, a tidier version of the above post...
"69
These vaccines are based on mRNA coding for the antigenic protein that is generated in vitro and encased with suitable material (e.g. lipid-based nanoparticle emulsion) that assures the delivery into the cell. The potential for integration into host cell DNA poses a theoretical risk; however, studies to date have shown that no retrovirus elements are available for their reverse transcription into DNA. mRNA has been proven to be stimulate innate immunity, therefore immune-mediated adverse events are also possible with this type of vaccine. Residual molecules, originating from raw materials, could induce unexpected immune responses."

I see no reason for hesitation..... and this is just a small snippet.
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