Liklihood of another lockdown?

[JustPloddingAlong123]

Yes I know nobody can tell the future. But I'm just wondering what the general consensus is/ how likely you think another lockdown is? I'm hoping worst case masks again.
I want to start my daughter back at a club she went too, we stopped because she doesn't get on with zoom lessons and it was a waste of money during lockdown. Worth signing her back up or waiting a bit longer?

*High rates of RSV now (presumably most of your paediatric beds) are a direct result of lowered immunity due to lockdowns/restrictions across the last year and a half. Flu will also be more problematic this year as a direct result of lockdown policies last year.

Lockdowns are detrimental to health also.* ⬅️ this, massively so

I don't think that we will and I don't think that they help.

@MarshaBradyo

It depends on the uptake of the booster for the over 50s.

I may not take mine, despite having had two jabs. Because quite frankly I'm fed up with it.

If people are not prepared to wear masks during a mini lockdown then why should I as an over 50 year old go for a booster shot?

I can't take another lockdown I am so so anxious that this is never going to end and I know others feel the same !

@placemats

If people are not prepared to wear masks during a mini lockdown then why should I as an over 50 year old go for a booster shot?

There's a flip side to that isn't there- if over 50s aren't prepared to have a booster vaccine (that the government has deemed necessary to protect them and help stop the NHS from becoming overwhelmed), then why should I as a healthy, fully vaccinated 33 year old comply with any further restrictions or lockdowns to help protect them or the NHS?

Just sayin'. We could go round in circles all day. Like all of these threads.

I don't think we will have another Lockdown, a few restrictions maybe vaccine passports, masks back etc but close schools shops and pubs I doubt it (Thank goodness). I'll be pissed off with an Autumn firebreak at halfterm as I've a holiday I'd quite like to go on as we weren't able to go in the Summer!

Latest SAGE findings:

"There is a clear consensus that continued high levels of homeworking has played a very important role in preventing sustained epidemic growth in recent months. It is highly likely that a significant decrease in homeworking in the next few months would result in a rapid increase in hospital admissions."

Hopefully WFH is here to stay.

@placemats

If people are not prepared to wear masks during a mini lockdown then why should I as an over 50 year old go for a booster shot?

I'd go to protect myself, regardless of the overall protection of others.

Having been pretty ill with covid and now having a long term health issue as a result I'd love to know if I will be eligible - I'm 48y, CV (plus work in a school where the children are too young for vaccinations and too young to SD) and just want to avoid a repeat of last time tbh.

[quote placemats]@MarshaBradyo

It depends on the uptake of the booster for the over 50s.

I may not take mine, despite having had two jabs. Because quite frankly I'm fed up with it.[/quote]
It’s up to you. Some will be keen to get extra protection.

I’m late 40s and won’t get it, obvs, just pleased if I don’t actually need it.

Hopefully WFH is here to stay.

Not for me thank fuck. I’ve been back in the office for months now.

Its that the same SAGE that was predicting over 100k cases and 6k admissions a day in July?

@placemats

If people are not prepared to wear masks during a mini lockdown then why should I as an over 50 year old go for a booster shot?

I absolutely support mask wearing but why wouldn't you want to do everything you can to protect your health? While the vaccinations help on a population level too, the biggest benefit for you is protection from severe illness and hospitalisation (and death).

It's a bit like saying why should I bother wearing a seatbelt or eating a healthy diet. For your own benefit, that's why.

I'd say to lockdown again the NHS would have to be under extreme burden as we simply cannot afford it.

What I took from the briefing is they hope to use other methods to control Covid rather than a lockdowns specifically the booster vaccinations but also possibly reintroducing mandatory masks, a new push on social distancing, Covid passports etc.

Because, surely if masks are sensible then they're sensible now, same for WFH

These have never been dropped in Scotland. Loads still WFH, high school kids still in masks. Cases are soaring and hospitals are starting to struggle.
I think it's lazy to blame schools though, particularly for hospitalisations. Adults are socialising and travelling in enclosed places en masse. Huge events are taking place. We've been busy with tourists. Nightclubs are open. This all happened at the same time as schools going back here but it's all of it together that is causing problems.
If anything has to be restricted then I really hope it's not schools.

@placemats

If people are not prepared to wear masks during a mini lockdown then why should I as an over 50 year old go for a booster shot?

I don't understand why you would think like this. Surely the booster jab will help protect your health ?

If you’ve been happy to have 2 shots, I’m not sure why you’d balk at a third,

I agree a booster will likely be more protective than other people wearing a mask.

Hopefully WFH is here to stay.

I quite like working from home but totally get its shit for many people.

I hope people get the choice in the future but not because of Covid. Why do some people want the pandemic to go on forever?

I'm too young for a booster, but I'd like yours... I mean, I do not get why you'd have such a problem with a third after 2 others

@NannyAndJohn

We should arguably be in Lockdown right now, or at least under some form of restrictions.

But once again, Johnson will wait until the very last second, and we'll have one sprung on us just before Christmas.

To be honest, if you want a "normal" Christmas, you should be hoping we get put in Lockdown ASAP.

Lockdowns are only required when the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed.

Unfortunately for you.

Some people (posters on here) clearly lead miserable lives, and won’t be satisfied until they bring everyone else down. They flippin’ love covid - it’s the answer to all their prayers.

I am not an optimist and am afraid things will never be “normal” - but I am sickened for my dc. I could cry for my ds stuck wfh in his bedroom and not meeting colleagues. Some posters don’t give a f**k about anyone else. They’re happy hoping for world collapse, gleeful at others’ misfortunes and get a strange buzz from predicting worse things to come.

High rates of RSV now (presumably most of your paediatric beds) are a direct result of lowered immunity due to lockdowns/restrictions across the last year and a half. Flu will also be more problematic this year as a direct result of lockdown policies last year. Lockdowns are detrimental to health also.

Completely agree.

The majority of babies that are being admitted with respiratory viruses are under 1-2 months old.

We are having to ventilate infants (aged 6-12 months old) and send them out to PICU with respiratory conditions that in previous years wouldn’t have needed such drastic action. They just don’t have any immune system and they are getting far sicker than we are used to seeing.

It's a shame that people still fail to realise that you can't eradicate Covid with just ignorance and positive thoughts

It's a shame that people still fail to realise that covid will not/cannot be eradicated with lockdowns and restrictions. Because it's endemic.

If that's what you're shooting for, @NannyAndJohn, I'm afraid you're on a hiding to nothing.