Is anyone NOT getting the vaccine?

[JC2021]

Anyone on here choosing not to receive the covid-19 vaccine?

I am undecided, but resistant.

My reasons; you can still become infected and spread the virus. How sick you might become would depend on your immunity, your age/health.

So, in my mind the only good the vaccine 'may' do (no guarantees) is prevent you getting very ill. Although, even this is still not guaranteed.

So the vaccine may reduce the change of you becoming really ill.

Fully vaccinated people can still spread the virus unknowingly to others, the same as unvaccinated.

Views?

And as for those who haven’t, they have made their own choice based on their own their own circumstances and I cannot fathom why there is so much anger towards those individuals.

Because the choice doesn't affect just them. It's quite simple really - the more people who are vaccinated the less likely the virus can spread and mutate.

If not being vaccinated only affected the individual then I say crack on, but it doesn't. It affects the whole of society.

Those who understand how vaccination works and how viruses spread and mutate have every right to feel frustrated towards people who believe conspiracy theories and untrue facts about the vaccine.

While we have a significant proportion of the population who refuse to vaccinate because "it's my choice" the more likely we will continue with restrictions.

I struggle to understand why these people don't get this.

I cannot fathom why there is so much anger towards those individuals

Because so many of them spread misinformation. Those who genuinely are unable to take the vaccine don't tend to do this.

@foxandbee

I cannot fathom why there is so much anger towards those individuals

Because so many of them spread misinformation. Those who genuinely are unable to take the vaccine don't tend to do this.

I don't spread misinformation. My reason for not having the vaccine is personal to me, and I don't preach and try to convince people either way. I still get abuse and hatred for it though. On MN, I was told I was responsible for the death of someone's relative.

All this anger, from all camps regarding the vaccine, is horrible and needs to stop.

Also so many of the vaccine refusers come along and spout the usual script as though they are telling us something we haven't heard a thousand times. They think we are all as thick as them.

I know you don't xeno but so many do.

Because so many of them spread misinformation. Those who genuinely are unable to take the vaccine don't tend to do this.

Unfortunately, I agree with you.

I still get abuse and hatred for it though. On MN, I was told I was responsible for the death of someone's relative

Nobody accused you, personally, for the death of my young niece. Why do you feel the need to lie?

I outlined a tragic event, where my DN, lost her life because she could not access PICU following an operation to save her life. This was due to Covid patients at the hospital. This meant that DN lost her bed because being exposed to Covid would have sealed her fate. Her paediatrician took the decision to wait, as she was too ill to be transferred to another hospital with PICU ward.

Don’t make this all about you! If you feel people are blaming you for the death of their loved ones maybe have a rethink about your priorities.

You come on every Covid thread stating you won’t (not can’t) have the vaccine. You also seem to be very proud that you don’t wear a mask.

Selfish, selfish, selfish. It’s all about you! You are still trying to garner sympathy for your own decisions. I’m done with you! 🤬

@KimmyAndMe

I still get abuse and hatred for it though. On MN, I was told I was responsible for the death of someone's relative

Nobody accused you, personally, for the death of my young niece. Why do you feel the need to lie?

I outlined a tragic event, where my DN, lost her life because she could not access PICU following an operation to save her life. This was due to Covid patients at the hospital. This meant that DN lost her bed because being exposed to Covid would have sealed her fate. Her paediatrician took the decision to wait, as she was too ill to be transferred to another hospital with PICU ward.

Don’t make this all about you! If you feel people are blaming you for the death of their loved ones maybe have a rethink about your priorities.

You come on every Covid thread stating you won’t (not can’t) have the vaccine. You also seem to be very proud that you don’t wear a mask.

Selfish, selfish, selfish. It’s all about you! You are still trying to garner sympathy for your own decisions. I’m done with you! 🤬

If you are "done with me", then why did you follow me from AIBU (so stalking me)? That is sad.

Where have I said I am proud I don't wear a mask? Go on, quote me. I wish I could swap the reason I can't wear one, with being able to wear one.

And I was not actually on about you. Get. A. Grip.

The trouble is when you’re end of life and intubated it’s too late to change your mind. Google this, this is a real thing in the US now. Antivaxers in the ICIU wanting to change their mind. Too late.

I really really struggle to understand the resistance, and I say that as someone has had Covid and felt dandy, am aged 55, and who lost her dad to Covid in January. Someone whose DD has worked in frontline NHS throughout the pandemic and seen that ICU change from middle aged fat men to young, unvaccinated people with or without underlying ing issues that may have impacted their illness.

I thought I’d be ill, I wasn’t, but equally you may think you are young and fit, and you may die from it.

The side effects of the vaccine were well worth the reduced risk of dying.

You takes your money…..

All the refusers (not those medically unable to have the vaccine) can thank those of us that have had the vaccine. It is thanks to us life is practically back to normal. Well thanks to the vaccine developers and distributors but still.

If we all refused we'd be exactly where we were in Jan, thousands of deaths and lockdown 🙄.

If I was a refuser I'd be ashamed to admit it.

@Mum21031608

Are you not able to understand that we need as many people as possible in the UK to take the vaccination?

Of course I’m aware of that and I’m sure an extremely high percentage of those offered the vaccination have taken it.

And as for those who haven’t, they have made their own choice based on their own their own circumstances and I cannot fathom why there is so much anger towards those individuals.

there is understandable frustration towards all the posts when someone states they're not having the vaccine and then proceeds to justify this with misinformation, normally about the vaccines not working or them being unsafe (often with the addition of only x% of people with COVID die anyway)

I've noticed an increasing amount of vaccine hysteria - not using the word lightly - with posters convinced they are going to die immediately afterwards, preparing to say goodbye to their children etc. This is what anti-vax misinformation does, and it's far more damaging than the very rare side effects of the jabs.

As I've said in most of my posts, don't have it if you're not comfortable, that's fair enough. But don't try and justify that choice with anti-vax misinformation which scares people into not taking it up, and terrifies those who already have.

I wonder if there is a direct correlation between mask refusers, vaccine refusers and the awful 'enough is enough! We are living in a dictatorship innit' mitherers. There seems to be on mn anyway.

@Sadsiblingatsea
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I’m 58 and I’m not taking it.
Too many people I know have had severe side effects. One of my neighbours died soon after. Too much risk for a virus that kills so few.
Check out the yellow card scheme.

Sorry to hear that
I too know more people who’ve had bad side effects than have had covid

It’s made me very wary

@JaniieJones

I couldn’t agree more. Yet it still seems to be the vaccine refusers who can’t wait for life to be resumed “as normal”. Despite them refusing to be part of the resolution.

@JaniieJones

I wonder if there is a direct correlation between mask refusers, vaccine refusers and the awful 'enough is enough! We are living in a dictatorship innit' mitherers. There seems to be on mn anyway.

for sure

along with lockdown causes more deaths than it prevents, and ivermectin is the cure for all COVID cases, but is being blocked by "big pharma"

these ideas are all peddled together by various groups and individuals (Yeadon, Bridle, HART, America's Frontline Doctors), and pushed forward on social media with dr and professor titles used to try and give credibility

@JaniieJones

I wonder if there is a direct correlation between mask refusers, vaccine refusers and the awful 'enough is enough! We are living in a dictatorship innit' mitherers. There seems to be on mn anyway.

I am mask exempt, is dangerous for me to have the vaccine.. and I do think where things are heading is going into dictatorship territory.

I am actually genuinely terrified about it all. But ok, blame me for deaths, call me selfish, whatever. Call me an anti-vaxxer, a mask refuser, a super spreader.. one of "The Unclean".

Show no empathy, no understanding. Just vitriol.

@XenoBitch

[quote CharleyChook]@XenoBitch

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My first biscuit... from the A&E nurse who is signing internal petitions to be able to refuse treatment to unvaccinated Covid patients.

@XenoBitch

My first biscuit... from the A&E nurse who is signing internal petitions to be able to refuse treatment to unvaccinated Covid patients

We live in hope 😉

[quote CharleyChook]@XenoBitch

My first biscuit... from the A&E nurse who is signing internal petitions to be able to refuse treatment to unvaccinated Covid patients

We live in hope 😉[/quote]
I hope you get struck off.

'couldn’t agree more. Yet it still seems to be the vaccine refusers who can’t wait for life to be resumed “as normal”. Despite them refusing to be part of the resolution.'

I know it is staggering!! 'Its a dictatorship/ it has to end/ enough is enough/our dc have been sacrificed but will I fuck have a vaccine that is actually getting us out of the crisis'. 🙄🙄🙄

As I said they have us to thank those that are actually being responsible.

@JaniieJones

'couldn’t agree more. Yet it still seems to be the vaccine refusers who can’t wait for life to be resumed “as normal”. Despite them refusing to be part of the resolution.'

I know it is staggering!! 'Its a dictatorship/ it has to end/ enough is enough/our dc have been sacrificed but will I fuck have a vaccine that is actually getting us out of the crisis'. 🙄🙄🙄

As I said they have us to thank those that are actually being responsible.

Hard to thank someone who says I am killing people.

'is dangerous for me to have the vaccine'

I'm sorry to hear that. Those who have had anaphylaxis (which is of course life threatening) previously are exempt.

Sadly, many of the anti vaxxers don't fit into this category. Like mask refusers they just refuse to do it while of course reaping the benefits of other people making the effort.

@user1494055864

OP I'm late 40's and not having it. Dh is 60's and not having it. There are lots of us on twitter xx

Your husband is taking a much higher risk than you are by not being vaccinated regardless of infection levels but in a time of high infections your risk from Covid is much higher than from the vaccine as well . Your decision is a poor one and your husband's decisions is an incredibly poor one ( unless you or your husband have had medical advice to avoid the vaccine) but it is of course your decision to make

@XenoBitch Why do you believe you are 'mask exempt'? Your reason for not having the vaccine is needle phobia, iirc.