Is anyone NOT getting the vaccine?

[JC2021]

Anyone on here choosing not to receive the covid-19 vaccine?

I am undecided, but resistant.

My reasons; you can still become infected and spread the virus. How sick you might become would depend on your immunity, your age/health.

So, in my mind the only good the vaccine 'may' do (no guarantees) is prevent you getting very ill. Although, even this is still not guaranteed.

So the vaccine may reduce the change of you becoming really ill.

Fully vaccinated people can still spread the virus unknowingly to others, the same as unvaccinated.

Views?

I still think it's to do with anxiety and fear of what they may have done to themselves and any (as yet completely unknown) repercussions in the future?

I don't know a single vaccinated person who feels like this. Everyone is just delighted to have been vaccinated and we're keen to get it some as soon as possible.

This idea that we're full of anxiety and fear is just ridiculous.

@Tiari
The OP came here with her doubts about the vaccine and asked for views. She had replies from many people giving her their views, pro and against the vaccine.
I find puzzling how antivaxers think that explaining the data is disrespectful. If you don't want your unfounded opinions to be questioned, don't post in a public forum.
My anxiety comes from seeing how antivaxers keep denying reality while people die.

Look, I don’t have time to reply to your posts accusing me in lying about deaths - those ones stated in official gov document, I’m not an expert and rely on other professionals and official data.

You have time to post misleading links though?

And you’re not relying on official data. That’s another untruth.

You took statistics that were clearly explained by those producing them as not evidence of a link between those deaths and the vaccine, and stated exactly the opposite. That’s not relying on official data - it’s misrepresenting and manipulating the data to suit your agenda.

And when you first stated that ‘1400 people had died of the vaccine’ you provided no qualifier of that statement until you were challenged. You expected people to take at face value that what you were saying is true - when it isn’t, and there is zero evidence to support it.

If you’re going to lie, you can expect to be called out on it. Repeatedly. I’m sorry if that feels uncomfortable for you but the consequences of your discomfort are a lot lower than the potential impact of your misinformation.

A retraction would be graceful. An apology for trying to mislead people would be even better.

Well said

@JC2021

I have suffered with blood clots before and required thinning medication

I was on blood thinners when I had my vaccine. It was double checked at the clinic that I could take it before hand.

I had covid back in Jan before I was vaccinated and I was heavily pregnant at the time. It was incredibly unpleasant and I'd rather not be that ill again especially as I now have a small baby to look after.

Anxiety and fear for what may happen now we are double jabbed?!!! I’ve heard everything now!

To be honest I don’t even bother arguing with those who don’t want the vaccine. It’s a shame that they are putting others at risk by allowing the virus to transmit better but ultimately they are putting themselves at risk. Like that guy who died a couple of days ago in the media - unvaccinated - and before he died he said he regretted that decision. I mean what can you say to people like that? I know a 30 something year old now very ill in hospital unvaccinated because she was worried about her fertility. Bet she’s even more worried about it now. I mean I just have nothing to say to these people.

I still think it's to do with anxiety and fear of what they may have done to themselves and any (as yet completely unknown) repercussions in the future?

Only as much anxiety as I feel about the potential future repercussions of the ham sandwich I just ate, tbh.

Actually I probably feel more anxiety about the ham, given the actual evidence base around both processed meats and the contribution of soy-fed livestock to climate change.

Still ate it though. It was pretty good.

I still think it's to do with anxiety and fear of what they may have done to themselves and any (as yet completely unknown) repercussions in the future?

🙄

I had covid in January and it was really quiet bad, needed 2 lots of antibiotics. However since then I have become ill, something unrelated they think, have been in hospital and they think a possible autoimmune disease, I have tested positive in a blood test, but they are still not sure. Because of this I am unable to have my vaccine, I will get it as soon as I’m told I can, as I don’t want to get it again, 2 weeks ago when I was in hospital more covid cases were coming in and I felt very worried about catching it, while also being so ill. Get the vaccine, you never know when your health might be compromised in some way, putting you at greater risk of catching covid

All this denial of anxiety and fear.........Methinks thou does protest too much

@Tiari

All this denial of anxiety and fear.........Methinks thou does protest too much

Really very tasty ham sandwich. Worth all the terrible life-altering anxiety, I promise you.

@JassyRadlett

Look, I don’t have time to reply to your posts accusing me in lying about deaths - those ones stated in official gov document, I’m not an expert and rely on other professionals and official data.

You have time to post misleading links though?

And you’re not relying on official data. That’s another untruth.

You took statistics that were clearly explained by those producing them as not evidence of a link between those deaths and the vaccine, and stated exactly the opposite. That’s not relying on official data - it’s misrepresenting and manipulating the data to suit your agenda.

And when you first stated that ‘1400 people had died of the vaccine’ you provided no qualifier of that statement until you were challenged. You expected people to take at face value that what you were saying is true - when it isn’t, and there is zero evidence to support it.

If you’re going to lie, you can expect to be called out on it. Repeatedly. I’m sorry if that feels uncomfortable for you but the consequences of your discomfort are a lot lower than the potential impact of your misinformation.

A retraction would be graceful. An apology for trying to mislead people would be even better.

Ok, i probably shouldn’t written those people died from the vaccine, just listed the link to that gov document. However, I didn’t misinformed anyone as I used official document, from the same source which says 130 k died after being tested positive with covid. It’s up to an individual to read various sources of the information, analyse and have an opinion.

But can I play this game too?

How anxious and afraid do you have to be all the time, that you reach a state where the only thing you can understand as motivating behaviour in other people is anxiety and fear?

(I mean that’s total bollocks isn’t it? But it shows how silly it is to try to put your own preferred motive onto others…)

Ok, i probably shouldn’t written those people died from the vaccine, just listed the link to that gov document. However, I didn’t misinformed anyone as I used official document, from the same source which says 130 k died after being tested positive with covid. It’s up to an individual to read various sources of the information, analyse and have an opinion.

Yep, you shouldn't have written that, because it was totally untrue.

You also shouldn't claim that when you first used the figure, you also provided a link to the document - you stated it as fact with no evidence, and only presented the (entirely contradictory) document when you were challenged on it.

It’s up to an individual to read various sources of the information, analyse and have an opinion.

Absolutely. But it's not up to any of us as individual to misuse or represent that information in ways that it clearly isn't designed to be use. That's not an opinion, or analysis. It's just a lie.

I'm glad we agree on that.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Mare it doesn't count unless you call them sheeple for impact!

I’m not having it. I work in a bit primary school, but I still don’t want to have it. I’m 32 and female so my risk of complications from covid is low. I’ve never liked taking medication, I don’t take hormonal contraceptives, I have anxiety and depression but I won’t take meds for it, the only thing I’ll take is antibiotics.
It’s my choice, I might change my mind further down the line, but we’ll see.

@AuntNora yep it’s your choice. Good luck.

@AuntNora

I’m not having it. I work in a bit primary school, but I still don’t want to have it. I’m 32 and female so my risk of complications from covid is low. I’ve never liked taking medication, I don’t take hormonal contraceptives, I have anxiety and depression but I won’t take meds for it, the only thing I’ll take is antibiotics. It’s my choice, I might change my mind further down the line, but we’ll see.

The main reasons for young people to have the vaccine is to protect other people. People immunocompromised, those on treatment for cancer, people that are on immunosupressors...

@berrylands I don’t think the anti-vaxxer brigade can understand that. Either they don’t understand it or they don’t care about others. So the only thing to do is roll your eyes and wish them the best of luck.

[quote Blessex]@berrylands I don’t think the anti-vaxxer brigade can understand that. Either they don’t understand it or they don’t care about others. So the only thing to do is roll your eyes and wish them the best of luck.[/quote]
@Blessex, I know. Today is the first day since the pandemic started that I'm argueing instead of rolling my eyes. I'm just fed up of antivaxers spreading lies and asking for respect for their opinions. They need to be confronted with the fact they are responsible for the deaths of other people.
I'm already starting to feel tired of hitting my head against this wall though.

@IHTC for 'saintly' read 'scientifically literate'.

I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t feel able to have this vaccine as my fear of medication and taking things into my body is too great.

@thenakedmolerat

I bet there are very few minimum wage earners and people on zero hours contracts who don't want to take steps to prevent themselves from catching the virus

I'm self employed and earn nothing if I don't work.
i have no intention of taking any of theses injections

You'll be off work for a lot longer with a nasty case of Covid. Nobody can predict who will get seriously ill. The vaccine is far, far, far safer than the virus. Your evaluation of risk here is completely, off-the-wall awful.