Will we be locking down again this year?

[Vindawoo]

Sorry, I'm sure it's been done to death

But do you think we will lock down again this year or are we done for now? Seems unlikely given the new blasé attitude of Boris etc - He seems to care less now

@EasterIssland

Someone from work shared some Twitter account that suggests how to get rid of COVID For it we’d need to 12 month hard lockdown - including closing the borders for 10 years, anyone with a legit reason to enter the country must spend 28 days in hotel quarantine, limited shops open run by keyworkers who must live apart from their families for the duration, all schooling online , permits required to leave the house, no outside exercise allowed, only allowed to leave the house once a week for shopping Non essential shops closed

For some posters this would be paradise ! For some others … don’t wait for me to stay in this country

Funniest pile of crap I've read for a while

It would be a hard year but I think it'd be worth it for Zero Covid

Now I know this poster is just taking the piss. Nobody, literally nobody, could think like this.

we locked down before because we risked the hospitals becoming overwhelmed. That risk is now gone. So why would we need to lock down again?

And what about the A&E departments and doctors who are overwhelmed or who will soon be?

Do we even know the rate of hospital admissions?

All we know is the number of cases and deaths....well what about all the people who got Covid, needed hospitalisation for a few days but didn’t die?

How do we know how many thousands of people fall into that category?

It isn’t just death that overwhelms hospitals.

And with no cases we may actually have a chance of getting a proper Track and Trace system implemented

Given how many posts I’ve read recently re people not isolating and even still going on holiday despite being told to isolate the system doesn’t have the capacity to physically check people are complying.

@ThornAmongstRoses

we locked down before because we risked the hospitals becoming overwhelmed. That risk is now gone. So why would we need to lock down again?

And what about the A&E departments and doctors who are overwhelmed or who will soon be?

Do we even know the rate of hospital admissions?

All we know is the number of cases and deaths....well what about all the people who got Covid, needed hospitalisation for a few days but didn’t die?

How do we know how many thousands of people fall into that category?

It isn’t just death that overwhelms hospitals.

Yes hospitalisation rate is known

Why do you think it wouldn’t be?

It would be a hard year but I think it'd be worth it for Zero Covid

Of course you would.

Meanwhile in the real world, no one could live like that.

@Pootle40 not my opinion. I’d be leaving that kind of country (sounds like North Korea) as said it’s someone in Twitter giivinf these ideas. But as you can see some people would love it and think it’s worth it. As if COVID was the only illness people die of

The Irish government said something similar to quiet the zero covid types in opposition. They also added no one going further than 2k from their house for at least 6 months and all non essential deliveries stopped (including takeaways).

The zero covid types shut up after that.

Just reading through the first few pages of this thread it looks like scaremongering posters are doing just that...who knew?

@frumpety

Which posters are you alluding to *@Sparklingbrook* ? and sorry I should have been more exact when mentioning advice, as in Government advice, so get a vaccine if you can, wear a mask in certain situations ( depending on which minister you listen to ) generally don't go hell for leather after the 19th type thing and keep the swapping of bodily fluids down to a bare minimum, unless you are a minister

The same posters that turn up on these threads with spurious 'facts' and information, repeatedly. Like some sort of broken record public service announcement. It's gone on for so long now nobody is listening.

I agree with your other points about keeping yourself safe. And if government ministers are being reckless and taking risks then it doesn't mean we have to copy them.

@TheKeatingFive

The Irish government said something similar to quiet the zero covid types in opposition. They also added no one going further than 2k from their house for at least 6 months and all non essential deliveries stopped (including takeaways).

The zero covid types shut up after that.

No takeaways? People would not survive that.

These threads do crack me up. Literally everyone on it knows best but guys, we don't have a bloody clue what's gonna happen so wind your necks in, stop fighting and realise non of you have crystal balls.

'It would be hard for a year but worth it for zero covid' - this is the best yet from @NannyAndJohn!!!

We should have gone into lockdown weeks ago.

Hospitalisations are now rising exponentially and the resulting deaths are already baked in.

But the government are still going to just let it rip

Nanny you copy and paste this quote on every covid thread - I'm becoming convinced, like others, that you are some kind of bot.

@NannyAndJohn New South Wales certainly arent having a couple of days at the moment.

There may have been a point Zero Covid was achieveable but it certainly isn't now with the Delta variant.

I think there needs to be a distinction between lockdown and measures/restrictions. Unless there is a massively vaccine escaping variant I think another lockdown is probably not going to happen. Will different measures and restrictions come in (masks, limited numbers on events, social distancing etc) yes I think they probably will

It would be a hard year but I think it'd be worth it for Zero Covid

I think @NannyAndJohn just came!

🤣🤣🤣

It's GOT to be a wind-up. I can't believe anyone like this really exists!

Maybe. Maybe not. Enjoy your summer doing anything and everything you’re allowed.

@NannyAndJohn keeps banging on about track & trace but when it works people want to delete it!

Every hard lockdowner I have come across has nothing to lose - either a wfh secure job type or retired with nice big house and garden and a dislike of going out, even for a pub lunch.

Going by the amount of time some posters have to spend on MN, it seems they definitely fit the profile.

[quote DottyHarmer]@NannyAndJohn keeps banging on about track & trace but when it works people want to delete it!

Every hard lockdowner I have come across has nothing to lose - either a wfh secure job type or retired with nice big house and garden and a dislike of going out, even for a pub lunch.

Going by the amount of time some posters have to spend on MN, it seems they definitely fit the profile.[/quote]
The problem with the App is that it works in that you get pinged. But the events leading up to the ping are not very easy to understand. There's been too many reports of contact (between phones let's face it-not people) that couldn't have even happened.

I agree that if you don't need to leave the house for any reason whatsoever then continue your own lockdown for the rest of your life by all means. Back in the real world I have stuff to do, people to see.

Then the solution is to get an app that actually works developed instead of abandoning the entire thing.

Until then we have to make do with what we've got.

No app will make people stay home. Anyone can delete it.

If you see the lengths some countries go to, police guard to keep people in apartment blocks etc even then not 100%

I know some would go for that on here of course (the more extreme) but you’d need near zero numbers

@NannyAndJohn

Then the solution is to get an app that actually works developed instead of abandoning the entire thing.

Until then we have to make do with what we've got.

App's, on their own, the world over, do not work, you need invasive contact tracing, which we do not do.

anyway, no need for the sorts of lockdowns we saw in early 2020 but i expect re introduction restrictions, closure of nightclubs and compulsory masks.

Such a shame, we have a chance to go into winter with manageable infections and an NHS able to cope with more than just CV but have chosen to go with a mass experiment instead.

Proper contact tracing would be far more feasible with very low numbers of cases - just like Australia or NZ.

Not that easy when you're approaching 100000 and still climbing.