Will we be locking down again this year?

[Vindawoo]

Sorry, I'm sure it's been done to death

But do you think we will lock down again this year or are we done for now? Seems unlikely given the new blasé attitude of Boris etc - He seems to care less now

@PrincessNutNuts this is why we think it's different this time.

Also the thing I find bizarre are these constant ‘the hospitals are full’. Yes- hospitals are ALWAYS FULL. There are never hundreds of empty beds. I worker in A&E in a Birmingham trust and in winter we would often be in negative beds (ie more patients in the hospital than beds available) so opening closed wards/admitting people into day units etc. That’s not new. People constantly saying there are no beds with no idea of the make up of the patients or whether or not that is normal for that trust is not helpful.

Yep. Our unit (psychiatric) doesn't ever have a spare bed for more than a few hours.

I sincerely hope not

Yes @Getyourarseofffthequattro MH inpatient beds even worse. I just find it frustrating that people google hospital capacity and when it’s low blame covid and go crazy when actually it’s for lots of different reasons (mainly austerity and very low hospital beds per capita thank you tories).

No I don't think there will be a lockdown. Enjoy life and try not to think about it.

These threads. Can we not have one long one?

Get some proper information from somewhere not random people on the internet.

Admissions with covid doubling each week in my hospital. Yes, fewer people, proportionately, are getting very sick with covid. However, in wave one (for the sake of simplicity) we have 1000 cases. 100 require hospital admission, 10 require critical care, 3 die. Number with long covid symptoms unknown.

Now, no restrictions, hug a stranger at the footie, optional masks. 10000 cases, 100 Admissions, 5 critically unwell. 1 dies. Number with long covid, unknown. Number if new variants able to emerge, unknown.

You could argue vaccinations have broken the link between infection/admission/serious illness, but the net result is the same. Hospitals overwhelmed. Essential services reduced due to staff shortages, bed availability, outbreaks of infection in non covid areas. Elective surgeries postponed, waiting times increase to 2 years. Cancers go undetected.

My hospital is taking the same covid measures we took in January, at the time when the national restrictions are ending. The NHS knows you've all stopped giving a fuck. We're on our own now. Popular opinion wins over science.

I am not suggesting for one second that we stay locked down forever, but honestly, if you can meet your family indoors, sit with your mates in a beer garden, take the kids swimming, hire a cottage by the sea, attend an outdoor concert with social distancing in place, get the bus to your covid secure workplace whilst wearing a mask, or work from home...isn't that enough?

I'm happy to stipulate that as I haven't provided a source we can safely dismiss it.

Shall I get the post deleted as misinformation?

Wow, I never thought I’d see the day when @PrincessNutNuts admits she’s just making things up to spread fear!

We should have gone into lockdown weeks ago.

Hospitalisations are now rising exponentially and the resulting deaths are already baked in.

But the government are still going to just let it rip.

‘Baked in’ that’s a new one for my Bingo card. 😂

Baked in is ok for JVT he has the charm to get away with it ;

[quote TheVampiresWife]@PrincessNutNuts

Yes. This is what it was like last autumn, and what it's like now.

I'm sure you'll tell me this is wrong, or that lag isn't taken into account, or that it'll get worse (I concede it probably will, but nothing like the same scale as last autumn). But yes. I do remember when it was like that, and then it wasn't. And I can also see that the landscape is very different, now.[/quote]
Can you not see that the growth from 1 Jun to 1 July is near enough identical to that from 1 Sep to 1 Oct?

I have known @PrincessNutNuts for the last year on Covid. A scaremongerer and doom-master. Noting big issues in NE hospitals that are not even back up able. Ignore her.

No of course not

If the bastards had spent the last 18 months getting up to strength maybe not........
Oh well there you go.

I don't think so

Why?

1. Numerous threads on here where people are merrily claiming that they are refusing to test or isolate because they don't want their summer holiday ruined.
2. New variants with higher levels of vaccine resistance.

@Blessex

I have known *@PrincessNutNuts* for the last year on Covid. A scaremongerer and doom-master. Noting big issues in NE hospitals that are not even back up able. Ignore her.

Can't you and the poster who replied to you just make your own decisions about how to respond to posters without telling other people what to do?

Yes, every thread. Numb nuts. Yawn

@UpSlyDown indeed

Likely during winter if the variants get their way. Hopefully it will not be a children variant.

Full lockdown, no, we could not survive that, economy would crash & burn. Levels/small lockdowns, I can see happening, but I am in Scotland & our cases are rising again I believe.