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Would you have non-vaccinated people in your house?

312 replies

NormaSnorks · 01/07/2021 15:32

I am part of a reading group. 8 of us used to meet in each other's houses on a rotating basis. Have been on zoom for last 14 months but we are starting to discuss return to hosting at home.

One member is ardent anti-vaxxer and two other members have said privately that they don't want her in their homes as they believe she presents a higher risk. One has an elderly relative at home and the other a CEV child.

OP posts:
ElephantMoth · 02/07/2021 03:02

Yes I would as it's none of my business.

Crackbadger · 02/07/2021 06:32

Yes, if I liked them.

No one CEV here though.

FromEden · 02/07/2021 07:17

If I had an elderly relative at home and a CEV child I wouldn’t have ANYONE in my house. Vaccinated people can also spread co- vid

So you would isolate yourself forever?

SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 07:25

Given that it's their dumb "political " stance, rather than they can't for medical reasons. No friggin way would they cross my doorstep

In my experience of our friends who think this way, they are the ones taking the most risks Covid wise & they can spread it around.

I'd say no & why. These morons need to learn that their antisocial & idiotic stance comes with consequences

& I'd do it with friends, let alone acquaintances

FflosFfantastig · 02/07/2021 07:31

I can live knowing I've done my bit to contribute to heed immunity and hopefully reduce mutations/variants

As can those who have recovered from previous infection...

FflosFfantastig · 02/07/2021 07:39

@KimmyAndMe

It seems to me that vaccinated people seem very scared still, despite having had their vaccine to protect themselves. I find it very bizarre. It must be awful to live every day with that degree of fear and preoccupation with other people's medical history

I’m not scared of contracting covid. I’m fully vaccinated, as are all members of my family and close friends who are able to have the vaccine. I am scared that those dearest to me, who cannot have the vaccination due to major health conditions. They don’t want, or deserve, to end up in hospital on a ventilator, or even worse, die from Covid through no fault of their own. I don’t want that for them so will protect them the best I can. Anyone who chooses to not have the vaccination, despite being able to, and ends up on a ventilator or worse… well… their choice really 🤷🏻‍♀️

You see, this makes sense to me. If you or a relative are in some way vulnerable ok I get it. I get that people are worried. However there have been countless posts from people who aren't CEV who still don't have confidence in the protection their vaccine affords them. Who still fear being around others who aren't vaccinated (children for example) and this doesn't make any sense. This preoccupation with other people's decisions is bordering on obsession for some people. Thanks for responding without being rude It's nice to see that some people can have sensible dialogue.
SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 07:42

As can those who have recovered from previous infection

That's total bollox & dangerous bollox at that 😏

It's very easy to educate yourself & know better, try it

FTR I had Covid Feb 19, had antibodies & then at 6 months I didn't have antibodies. If you look on Covid groups you will see droves of people dealing with second & even 3rd Covid infections. That does not happen if you have immunity from the first infection

You need to think of Covid as you would a cold, (but a potentially very dangerous one) as that's how the virus behaves, you can catch it again & again & again & get no virus lead immunity to it

SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 07:46

Feb 20, no idea where Feb 19 came from ConfusedBlush

Tigerblue · 02/07/2021 07:58

Workmen I can distance from - we've had to have a couple in briefly and I've opened windows, kept out of the room - I can cope with that. If I had to sit in close proximity for any length of time to someone who was un vaccinated, I wouldn't be comfortable

Had to accept DD is ok to be here - I know she can still catch it but she's very careful - three of her friends are fully vaccinated, but they're still meeting outside, at work she has to have a mask on unless drinking/eating - it has to go on immediately that stops.

Very lucky in that we know the vaccinated status of all our friends, colleagues and family - it's been a talking point and we were all excited to get it. Only two I know who haven't is a friend who can't have it right now, she feels really vulnerable as she's unprotected - I'm the only friend she's seeing right now and we meet distanced outside. The other person is my neighbour, who as much as I've tried, I have nothing in common with so I wouldn't mix socially with her.

spotcheck · 02/07/2021 08:03

@Oblahdeeoblahdoe

We have a similar problem with an adult nephew. He has a very laissez-faire approach to the whole C19 issue. I really wanted to have a small family do with my brother and his kids but honestly don't feel comfortable with having DN staying over. My attitude is it's his right to not be vaccinated but it's my right to not have him in my home, shame really...
Why do you have to ban him from your house though? Genuine question. Surely EVERYONE is out and about at the moment? Are you saying he doesn't hand sanitise enough?
spotcheck · 02/07/2021 08:05

OP
If other members of the group have vulnerable people in their house, then surely the answer is that they don't host?
No need to make it political

thyroidhelp · 02/07/2021 08:21

Isn't it only important what your vaccination status is if you're worried about catching it? Or am I missing something?

Canigooutyet · 02/07/2021 08:58

Seen as flu has been mentioned on here anyone know the death rate for that last year?

LimitIsUp · 02/07/2021 09:06

@Canigooutyet

Seen as flu has been mentioned on here anyone know the death rate for that last year?
Last year's deaths for flu would be hugely misleading since we had months of lockdown and social distancing!

This report says that in a typical year between 10,000 -25,000 deaths annually in England and Wales: flu deaths

Thewiseoneincognito · 02/07/2021 09:12

Vaxxed or not OP I would be continuing your book club remotely or outdoors at least. I wouldn’t be having 8 different people in my house regardless of whether they have had it or not. Not worth the risk as these vaccines are not bulletproof at all.

Canigooutyet · 02/07/2021 09:17

Thanks but it's really old and made in 2006 and I think since then there was a really bad strain.

Namenic · 02/07/2021 09:23

I wouldn’t in most cases if I had CEV relative. If the anti vaxxer was a v close relative, I would consider mitigations- eg outdoor meeting, meeting with masks, quarantine period, pre-meeting test. If it was a trades person I’d consider isolating most people away from the work on another floor and masks, open windows.

I don’t see why anyone should feel entitled to meet me and come into my home.

Ifitquacks · 02/07/2021 09:30

@Canigooutyet

Thanks but it's really old and made in 2006 and I think since then there was a really bad strain.
I think 2019 was an extremely bad year for flu. They had incorrectly anticipated which strain would be dominant so the vaccine wasn’t very effective. Wonder if they have a naming system for flu variants?
Ifitquacks · 02/07/2021 09:31

I don’t see why anyone should feel entitled to meet me and come into my home

Who does feel entitled to meet you or go into your home? This isn’t something I’ve ever encountered.

Namenic · 02/07/2021 09:41

Everyone I’ve met is understanding ifitquacks - but the OP is about whether I would let unvaxxed people in. I’m just saying it’s our family’s decision and don’t get why anyone would object.

99victoria · 02/07/2021 09:43

As previous posters have also said, I have had my unvaccinated adult children and grandchildren in my house throughout the pandemic as we have continued to do childcare.
My daughter, who is a teacher, only had her first vaccine a couple of weeks ago, so as far as we're concerned, we've already assessed that risk and moved on from it

SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 09:46

I don’t see why anyone should feel entitled to meet me and come into my home

Who does feel entitled to meet you or go into your home? This isn’t something I’ve ever encountered.

Confused

Oh trust me people do. We had a conversation with friends last night who had exactly this attitude & had decided that they are visiting us & staying over after the 21st when things open up, they of course added, if that's okay with you of course, but weren't bloody listening when we said no it's not okay with us

SexTrainGlue · 02/07/2021 09:52

Seen as flu has been mentioned on here anyone know the death rate for that last year?

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/annual-flu-reports

Flu was really low - below usual baselines for both GP and hospital surveillance

Wakemeuuuup · 02/07/2021 09:56

By and large I'd probably be ok for a little while but a relative has tickets for the euros finals. They won't be 2 weeks post 2nd vaccination and are taking their teen with them.

I wouldn't be happy having them staying in the house after being on a train from northern England followed by being in a stadium with 60000 people including getting there and back.

Pinchoftums · 02/07/2021 09:58

I would invite an unvaccinated person however would avoid a fervent antivaxxer as all the ones I know are so caught up in the cult of the antivax that they are hard to get any decent convo out of.