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Would you have non-vaccinated people in your house?

312 replies

NormaSnorks · 01/07/2021 15:32

I am part of a reading group. 8 of us used to meet in each other's houses on a rotating basis. Have been on zoom for last 14 months but we are starting to discuss return to hosting at home.

One member is ardent anti-vaxxer and two other members have said privately that they don't want her in their homes as they believe she presents a higher risk. One has an elderly relative at home and the other a CEV child.

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SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 15:01

I made the mistake at work of saying why I needed time off and got more than one snide "why are you getting it?" That was repeated to other people too. It was at that moment I made the decision that I wouldn't be revealing my vaccination status. People are just judgmental no matter which way the vaccine debate goes

Mmm, I can see your point there, sounds like you work with a load gossipy arseholes & I'd be inclined to treat them the same. I certainly wouldn't be making it a flat rule though, especially not when I know how reassuring it can be, especially to those who are CEV but can't divulge why due to prejudice

Ifitquacks · 02/07/2021 15:05

And if I was CEV, I’d probably still be choosing to only see people outside anyway as vaccinated people can still carry and transmit Covid.

SpeedRunParent · 02/07/2021 15:09

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

I did consider moving the children into the shed, but I've decided to let them in the house even though they aren't vaccinated and spend them time with 29 other unvaccinated people.

As for adults... honestly it depends on their overall approach. Complete denier... probably not. I wouldn't trust them. Just a bit nervous about the vaccination... probably would.

😂😂😂
bumbleymummy · 02/07/2021 15:11

@SingingInTheShithouse

Covid is not the flu, we are not in the middle of a deadly flu pandemic 🤦‍♀️

I have several friends with HIV who are extremely vulnerable to Covid & not generally able to be open about health issues due to prejudice. Knowing people are vaccinated that they interact closely with is as im sure you can appreciate is a huge relief for them

People with HIV are vulnerable to flu too.
SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 15:12

I can kind of see your point there @Ifitquacks, but I'd also guess from that, that you are not CEV & are obviously fully vaccinated & have no close contact with CEV family etc, which I feel makes a difference

Other people are welcome to make their own risk assessment, but I assume my friends feel similarly to me as they’re happy to socialise with me without knowing if I’m vaxxed or not (and I with them).

Very different from my circle, though maybe we are more vigilant as have had way too many shock with friends coming out as full blown Qu'anon antivaxxers. Some have actually just emigrated & left without contacting any old friends, because they think they might get contaminated by our now altered DNA & actually said that out loud to one friendConfused

My situation is slightly different in that I'm CV/CEV & not fully vaccinated yet due to complications & needing more information my doctor can't yet get hold of. So I do have to be careful, but it's also been a godsend to us to know which friends are vaccinated so we can see them again. We do actively avoid unvaccinated & presume people not saying they have been vaccinated, aren't, because we've had several shocks with people we presumed were sensible & intelligent turning out to be rabid antivaxxers

SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 15:15

People with HIV are vulnerable to flu too.

Yes, but nothing like as vulnerable to what they are with Covid & my 2 closest friends living with HIV, I know from conversation are covered by their medication as I've worried in the past about them visiting when I thought I might have a flu bug

bumbleymummy · 02/07/2021 15:24

When you mean ‘covered by their medication’ do you mean ART? That doesn’t protect them from flu, it’s just that people who have a low CD4 count or those who aren’t receiving ART can become more seriously ill. It’s the same with coronavirus, although studies into the impact of coronavirus on people living with HIV are still ongoing. Some show a slightly increased risk while others put their risk in line with people without hiv.

Ifitquacks · 02/07/2021 15:28

My brother in law in Spain has HIV and he hasn’t even been offered the vaccine yet!

HeartvsBrain · 02/07/2021 15:28

Yes, my Grandchild.

SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 15:28

Yes & yes I know it doesn't fully protect them, but stops them getting more seriously ill, so they tend to take it in their stride far more than Covid which is much more of an unknown to them.

exybusiness · 02/07/2021 15:32

I'm not really having anyone in my house.
I know 6 people who have tested positive this week through family and

exybusiness · 02/07/2021 15:33

Fucksake!
6 people through family and work who have tested positive just this week.
I'm CEV so even double vaccinated, I'm being very careful.

SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 15:33

My brother in law in Spain has HIV and he hasn’t even been offered the vaccine yet!

We have a Spanish friend in that situation too & others who are CEV too, it's a real worry

That said though, one of our friends who is CEV caught it & we were all sure we were going to lose him as he was extremely ill. The hospital were fantastic though & even used the pure form high dose vitamin D as part of his treatment & he was up & out & fully recovered surprisingly quickly. So from that it's reassuring that their hospital treatment for it is really good & they can survive

ArchbishopOfBanterbury · 02/07/2021 15:45

Could you meet outdoors?

Bythemillpond · 02/07/2021 19:31

I believe the vaccination works. The real world data shows that it gives approx 95% protection against severe illness. Other people’s vax status is immaterial to me, because I’ve had the vaccination and therefore have an extremely high degree of protection
If an unvaxxed person came to my house, they would be putting themselves at far more danger than they’re putting me...because they don’t have that protection

Which is perfectly reasonable. However there appears to be a lot of people who have had both their jabs and still act as though if you look in their direction they think you are going to kill them with Covid.

Is this a reportable side effect of being vaccinated. You have both jabs and it turns you into a jibbering wreck who loses the ability of critical thinking and logic.

ThornAmongstRoses · 02/07/2021 19:50

Is this how society works now?

We treat the unvaccinated as though they’re carrying the plague?

I spend a lot of time with unvaccinated people and it wouldn’t even cross my mind to stay away from them or treat them like they are the Grim Reaper.

I’m vaccinated and that’s good enough for me.

HumunaHey · 02/07/2021 19:54

@ThornAmongstRoses

Is this how society works now?

We treat the unvaccinated as though they’re carrying the plague?

I spend a lot of time with unvaccinated people and it wouldn’t even cross my mind to stay away from them or treat them like they are the Grim Reaper.

I’m vaccinated and that’s good enough for me.

Well I feel it's doing more harm to those are vaccinated with that mindset than those who are unvaccinated. It seems, as PP have said, some who are vaccinated have turned into jibbering fools. It's actually sad what the handling of this pandemic has done to our mental health.
ThornAmongstRoses · 02/07/2021 20:00

Well I feel it's doing more harm to those are vaccinated with that mindset than those who are unvaccinated.

I may have misunderstood the point you were trying to make, but how is my attitude, as a vaccinated person, causing more harm to myself than to the unvaccinated?

Because I’m not scared to be around them it means I’m destined to get Covid despite being doubly vaccinated?

Justgettingbye · 02/07/2021 20:27

A colleague of mine said they were late in as they got their vaccine,that opened up the conversation to ask which one, any side effects and mention that I have had it. If she hadn't of brought it up, I wasn't going to start asking people, it's too much of a touchy subject and someone you deem as normal could really change when it comes to this sort of thing

alreadytaken · 02/07/2021 20:31

"Is this how society works now". Anti-vax conspiracy theorists have chosen not to contribute to controlling the spread of the virus - choose not to be part of society and you have no right to complain if people respond in kind.

No I wouldnt want anti-vax conspiracy theorists in my home and I'd avoid their business, if they had one.

bumbleymummy · 02/07/2021 20:38

Not wanting to be vaccinated against a disease that is low risk for the majority of people does not make someone an ‘anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist’ Hmm

tigger1001 · 02/07/2021 20:39

@alreadytaken

"Is this how society works now". Anti-vax conspiracy theorists have chosen not to contribute to controlling the spread of the virus - choose not to be part of society and you have no right to complain if people respond in kind.

No I wouldnt want anti-vax conspiracy theorists in my home and I'd avoid their business, if they had one.

Not everyone who is wary of getting the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist.
Mymapuddlington · 02/07/2021 20:40

@alreadytaken wow, how incredibly narrow minded.
I’m not an anti vaxxer, my child has had all the normal vaccines. I’m pro information, what are the long term effects? Why was the vaccine damages payout government page updated with COVID-19 vaccine before vaccines were offered? What side effects are there?

Remember when it all came from a bat? Remember when the vaccine was completely safe?
Now it’s looking like it was manufactured in a lab and the vaccine has killed people and caused devastating side effects.

I where a mask, social distance, hand sanitise and support everyone who has the vaccine and pray they’re ok and everyone who hasn’t and pray they’re ok. Just because I don’t want me or my family to be guinea pigs doesn’t make me a conspiracy theorist.
If you’re vaccinated why worry about someone unvaccinated who is wearing a mask, social distancing and washing hands etc?

HumunaHey · 02/07/2021 21:01

@ThornAmongstRoses

Well I feel it's doing more harm to those are vaccinated with that mindset than those who are unvaccinated.

I may have misunderstood the point you were trying to make, but how is my attitude, as a vaccinated person, causing more harm to myself than to the unvaccinated?

Because I’m not scared to be around them it means I’m destined to get Covid despite being doubly vaccinated?

No, I mean people being excessively scared of being around unvaccinated people despite being vaccinated themselves.
ThornAmongstRoses · 02/07/2021 21:21

No, I mean people being excessively scared of being around unvaccinated people despite being vaccinated themselves.

Oh I see - and I completely agree!

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