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Just wondering if those that have refused to have the vaccine are now wishing they had?

532 replies

Lovemusic33 · 22/06/2021 10:26

There’s a lot of talk about vaccinated people not having to quarantine in the future making travel easier, the possibility of a vaccine passport to be able to go to events and travel.

I have several friends that have refused to have the vaccine due to conspiracy theories and ‘not knowing the risks’, if they had taken the first vaccine they would have had their 2nd by now and potentially be ok to travel in the coming weeks or attend events, there even talk of some jobs needing vaccination (care workers).

I’m just wondering if anyone regrets their choice not to vaccinate?

BTW, I am vaccinated but I’m not judging those who decided against it, just wondering if they have changed their minds?

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Parker231 · 24/06/2021 16:58

Am lucky enough to be married to a doctor so easy to access the appropriate information. DH had his first vaccine in December, ironically on the same date a good friend died of Covid. My parents and in laws have had their vaccinations in Belgium and Canada and I’ve now had both AZ. DT’s are next and then I can relax that close family are all protected

ineedaholidaynow · 24/06/2021 17:19

@Endofether so if everyone waited until the end of 2023 what do you think will have happened?

Endofether · 24/06/2021 18:38

@ineedaholidaynow I personally think just the vulnerable need to be jabbed

If you’re gonna be at risk from Covid then maybe you choose to take the unlicensed vaccine

Poorlykitten · 24/06/2021 18:47

So you won’t take the vaccine because you are worried about it being harmful but you do think vulnerable people should test it out for you first? Nice.

bumbleymummy · 24/06/2021 18:49

@Parker231

Am lucky enough to be married to a doctor so easy to access the appropriate information. DH had his first vaccine in December, ironically on the same date a good friend died of Covid. My parents and in laws have had their vaccinations in Belgium and Canada and I’ve now had both AZ. DT’s are next and then I can relax that close family are all protected
What information do you have access to that the rest of us don’t?
Parker231 · 24/06/2021 18:55

I didn’t say I have information not in the public domain ! the advantage to me (and our family and friends) is that DH can translate the huge amount of scientific information. I was initially concerned about my parents as Belgium were slower with their vaccination programme but thankfully have now caught up.

Endofether · 24/06/2021 19:01

@Poorlykitten it’s about risk . I’m low risk so am in no hurry to have it. If I had underlying conditions I might have it. I would weigh up the risk last, as is my right to do so

bumbleymummy · 24/06/2021 21:01

@Parker231 fair enough. I’m able to access/translate the information myself and came to a different decision about having the vaccine.

Itsprobablynotcominghome · 24/06/2021 21:46

Reading the comments from those that haven’t been jabbed, I’ll be fucked if we ever lockdown again.

14 weeks from when they offered it to the 18 year olds. So start of Oct no restrictions, nothing. And I’ve been pro lockdown since February 2020.

Hospitals getting full? Vaccinated covid patients first. Job done.

Endofether · 24/06/2021 22:41

@Itsprobablynotcominghome

Reading the comments from those that haven’t been jabbed, I’ll be fucked if we ever lockdown again.

14 weeks from when they offered it to the 18 year olds. So start of Oct no restrictions, nothing. And I’ve been pro lockdown since February 2020.

Hospitals getting full? Vaccinated covid patients first. Job done.

Why would vaccinated patients be going to hospital with Covid ? Confused ?
XenoBitch · 24/06/2021 22:51

@Itsprobablynotcominghome

Reading the comments from those that haven’t been jabbed, I’ll be fucked if we ever lockdown again.

14 weeks from when they offered it to the 18 year olds. So start of Oct no restrictions, nothing. And I’ve been pro lockdown since February 2020.

Hospitals getting full? Vaccinated covid patients first. Job done.

If the hospitals end up full of vaccinated people then something will have gone horribly wrong. Still, the NHS treats people based on need, not morals.
Endofether · 24/06/2021 23:07

My friend works at a cafe home and there is big Covid outbreak of delta variant in the residents and staff . All double vaccinated

Baluchistan95 · 24/06/2021 23:39

[quote bumbleymummy]@Parker231 fair enough. I’m able to access/translate the information myself and came to a different decision about having the vaccine.[/quote]
Love your reply. Same here.

Parker231 · 24/06/2021 23:43

I’m perfectly competent but I’m an accountant not at medic or scientist. I leave the experts to their area of speciality.
I considered any risks from the vaccine minimal compared with the huge benefits.

Parker231 · 24/06/2021 23:45

This is why Mn is interesting - I don’t know anyone in RL who hasn’t already had the vaccine or has an appointment booked as in the case of 21 year old DS.

oohmethumb · 25/06/2021 00:39

@Parker231

Your naivety and inability to ignore any concerns about this vaccine is astonishing.

oohmethumb · 25/06/2021 00:41
  • ability! Think I double negatived!
Parker231 · 25/06/2021 00:50

Nothing naive about me - am a realist. The number of deaths from Covid has been horrendous (including a good friend). If you look at the deaths at the start of the year , when the vaccine rollout started to now, it has been hugely successful in saving lives.
With every vaccine or medical treatment there are risks - no one is ignoring them but the benefits out way the risks.

ollyollyoxenfree · 25/06/2021 00:55

If the hospitals end up full of vaccinated people then something will have gone horribly wrong.

I believe this is what's predicted to happen though - you're most likely to be hospitalised with COVID if you're elderly/CEV, and these are the people who are most likely to have taken up the vaccine.

hopefully we're getting closer to population level protection for these people who the vaccine is most likely to fail for

oohmethumb · 25/06/2021 01:06

@Parker231

Have you considered that the most vulnerable are now actually dead? That will reduce the comparative death rate from this year to last. Lockdowns reduce the death rate. Not sending Covid positive patients into care homes reduces the death rate. Giving care homes and hospitals PPE reduces the death rate. Human behaviour reduces the death rate. Vaccines might reduce the death rate as well but we have no idea which one of these factors is most important and to attribute a fall in death rates solely to vaccination is naive.

Furries · 25/06/2021 02:40

Still amazed by the amount of people who throw up the “trial phase” argument. The whole process has been “fast tracked” by cutting all red tape/gaps between funding and testing etc.

In essence, yes, it’s been approved for emergency purposes. No disputing that whatsoever. Outcome if that decision was delayed - who knows!

We have multitudes of medications and vaccines that are “normal” and no one blinks an eyelid. What if, at the start of each of those, no one was willing to risk trying them? The reason this is so magnified now is that it’s global and that it’s the age of the internet.

I have no “issue” with those that decide it’s not for them, it is a personal choice for everyone. But, to me, the wanting to wait x amount of time for data is flawed. I’m thankful to those in the past who took up vaccines which are normal to us in everyday life now. I hope that, in years to come, it’s the same thought for others.

Oblomov21 · 25/06/2021 03:27

Wow. Interesting reading. I didn't know this that many people were waiting for results from 2023. That's 3 years from when it started, and 2 years from now. That's a long time.

bumbleymummy · 25/06/2021 07:56

@Parker231

Nothing naive about me - am a realist. The number of deaths from Covid has been horrendous (including a good friend). If you look at the deaths at the start of the year , when the vaccine rollout started to now, it has been hugely successful in saving lives. With every vaccine or medical treatment there are risks - no one is ignoring them but the benefits out way the risks.
Yes, and the average age of death is over 80. It has saved lives but the younger age groups that we are vaccinating now are very unlikely to become seriously ill or die from this.
Poorlykitten · 25/06/2021 08:14

I think if you have suffered losses from Covid of those close to you or had experience of knowing young people that have died from it then you have a different take. I know two people in their 30s and 40s that have died so it seems much more of a lottery to me. Plus I have elderly relatives and shielding family members I would like to protect.

Tiari · 25/06/2021 08:51

I really think this thread should have been titled
Just wondering if those who have decided to have the vaccine are now wishing they hadn't?

because some of those vaccinated are so defensive and clearly very concerned.
But whatever everyone's decision, I wish all of us and our families good luck and sincerely hope we all get through this Flowers