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Is anyone else reassured by the death rates??

277 replies

ThornAmongstRoses · 22/06/2021 07:19

Is it just me?

I feel so reassured about the fact that the death rates are staying so low.

Each death is obviously a tragedy, I’m not dismissing that, but the fact that 1000’s of lives aren’t being lost a day anymore is such a blessing for many families.

Cases are going up, as was always going to happen, but the death rate staying so low each day is such a relief.

I’m relieved the vaccines must be working and I’m so happy for the all the the families in society who are no longer being ripped apart by losing their loved ones to such a horrible virus.

Maybe it’s because the sun is shining very beautifully where I am, but I’m feeling very positive this morning Smile

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bumbleymummy · 22/06/2021 07:26

Yep :) although the doom and gloomers will be along shortly to tell you how pear shaped it’s all going to go in 3 weeks. (Just like some of them did 3 weeks ago)

newnortherner111 · 22/06/2021 07:29

Too many deaths even with the much lower number, but I am reassured that the vaccination programme is beginning to turn it from an illness which hospitalises and kills more to one that means two weeks at home and mild unpleasantness.

Hasn't science been wonderful, especially in Oxford and those they have collaborated with?

UpTheJunktion · 22/06/2021 07:33

Yes.

And flu and even Niro virus always cause the occasional death.

So, the vaccine programme has brought COVID under a manageable control.

We need to keep it up so that the chances of new variants are reduced.

Geamhradh · 22/06/2021 07:33

Yes, it's good news. Thank god for the vaccinations.

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 22/06/2021 07:35

It is reassuring but we need longer before we see if the slow but steady rise in hospitalisation is going to result in higher deaths in a few weeks. Equally we need to know if the rise is going to be short term admissions and something the NHS can cope with or if it is going to threaten the provision of other services again.

Cafeaulait27 · 22/06/2021 07:43

Yes, hope it stays that way so the gov will be reassured enough to get rid of social distancing and masks.

Felt so jealous watching the Denmark match last night - they had a full stadium as they’ve scrapped restrictions!

Imnothereforthedrama · 22/06/2021 07:45

I think you have to look at the positives , yes I’ve been looking at the deaths from this time last year much lower considering last year we was just coming out of lockdown. I’m hopeful that the vaccine is working and we are over the worst .

AlmostSummer21 · 22/06/2021 07:56

Yes & no

Obviously I'm pleased the numbers of those dying is remaining fairly low (whilst as you said still awful gor family & friends) but while we have cases still rising, the deaths will rise too.

Hospital admissions are going to be a problem though as there's the compound issue,patients are needing treatment for a longer period.

I've just come out of hospital (not COVID) and my hospital is very short staffed. Loads left & some on leave (quite a lot as not taken last year

Although MH is banging on about pushing the vaccine through, I just don't see it in the daily numbers vaccinated.

The vaccines ARE incredible and HAVE saved us from dreadful dreadful numbers of people dying in this third wave

We just need people to get them!!

Geamhradh · 22/06/2021 08:16

From what I've read, on here from the knowledgeable posters on the long-running stats threads, (and I suppose as a logical extrapolation) as it's the young who aren't yet vaccinated, they are (obviously) more likely to be infected with both old Covid and new variants, but, at the same time, because of their youth and lesser likelihood of having other health problems, they are more likely to be healthy-positives/asymptomatic, which of course is great for the pressure on the NHS, but less so if they are unknowingly infecting others.
I'm not in the UK, but currently know 4 people who are positive. All 4 are 17. All asymptomatic.

Bagelsandbrie · 22/06/2021 08:17

Yes. It’s evidence the vaccines are working.

Arrowheart · 22/06/2021 08:21

Yes, it is good news that the deaths aren't rising rapidly. Despite this good news however there will be the usual suspects popping up on this thread who will present you with their doom hoover graphs, statistics and predictions that seem to somehow ignore the facts.

Be warned....

Fitforforty · 22/06/2021 08:22

No. It is slowly increasing and the number of people in hospital with covid was decreasing and that’s now increasing.

UserAtRandom · 22/06/2021 08:24

I've actually always felt there was too much focus on deaths. Yes, every death is sad and I don't wish ill on anyone, but my main concerns are people (particularly otherwise quite young and healthy people) getting Covid and the knock on effect to the NHS in terms of minimised care in other (non-Covid) areas. I'll feel reassured when hospital admissions and NHS waiting lists come down.

UserAtRandom · 22/06/2021 08:24

should read "young and healthy people getting Long Covid"

3asAbird · 22/06/2021 08:27

We were constantly told last 18months or so

When cases are high hospital admissions and deaths will follow.
That there a 3 week lag.
That deaths are baked in.
If deaths are say 1% of cases for example and deaths go extra thousand.
For every 1000 caess would = 100 deaths.
I think too early count our chicken personally.

Pissedoff1234 · 22/06/2021 08:31

@3asAbird

We were constantly told last 18months or so

When cases are high hospital admissions and deaths will follow.
That there a 3 week lag.
That deaths are baked in.
If deaths are say 1% of cases for example and deaths go extra thousand.
For every 1000 caess would = 100 deaths.
I think too early count our chicken personally.

Surely this was before vaccination though. Different ball game now.
Geamhradh · 22/06/2021 08:32

But the end of that was always "until we have a functioning vaccine programme" wasn't it?

Geamhradh · 22/06/2021 08:32

XPost.

moonbedazzled · 22/06/2021 08:33

I'm in the northwest in an area where numbers are quite high. The local hospital has 9 covid patients in, 2 in critical care. Our case numbers weren't much higher in January but the hospital figures were. I think its very hopeful. Having said that, 3 of the 9 had had both injections, but when they'd had their second one and whether they had comorbidities, I don't know. 5 had had no injections.

Delatron · 22/06/2021 08:34

18 months ago, whatever we were told was based on no vaccines.

We are waiting to see how effective they are. Two weeks ago we were told the next few weeks would be key. Here we are and deaths remain low.

I’m feeling positive. I guess for many they’ll need another month or so but at some point there needs to be an acceptance that the vaccines are working to prevent deaths.
On the whole.

Snookie00 · 22/06/2021 08:38

Just waiting for the usual suspects to come on the thread talking about long covid. And some scare story about children succumbing to long covid.

Some people seem to hate the fact that the vaccine programme has been a success and cling on to any angle they can find to prolong the crisis.

Horehound · 22/06/2021 08:42

Surely this was before vaccination though. Different ball game now

It is. Not sure why people don't understand that.

MorrisZapp · 22/06/2021 08:47

Yip. I'm beyond tired of the 'we need a few more weeks' trope. No end point or goal will ever satisfy them. We can never be three weeks ahead of the calendar so they'll never concede defeat.

My own dear mum resorts to long covid chat to keep the mayhem going. In her case its political (Sturgeon good, Johnson bad) but she cannot accept any UK gains at all because this suggests we have a good UK government. The only gains she would ever acknowledge would be those specifically in Scotland, and when England has done worse.

It's utterly exhausting.

Delatron · 22/06/2021 08:51

@Snookie00 I’ll give it about ten minutes!

bumbleymummy · 22/06/2021 08:52

@AlmostSummer21

Yes & no

Obviously I'm pleased the numbers of those dying is remaining fairly low (whilst as you said still awful gor family & friends) but while we have cases still rising, the deaths will rise too.

Hospital admissions are going to be a problem though as there's the compound issue,patients are needing treatment for a longer period.

I've just come out of hospital (not COVID) and my hospital is very short staffed. Loads left & some on leave (quite a lot as not taken last year

Although MH is banging on about pushing the vaccine through, I just don't see it in the daily numbers vaccinated.

The vaccines ARE incredible and HAVE saved us from dreadful dreadful numbers of people dying in this third wave

We just need people to get them!!

Vaccine uptake is really high - particularly in the groups most likely to end up in hospital. Confused