Is anyone else reassured by the death rates??

[ThornAmongstRoses]

Is it just me?

I feel so reassured about the fact that the death rates are staying so low.

Each death is obviously a tragedy, I’m not dismissing that, but the fact that 1000’s of lives aren’t being lost a day anymore is such a blessing for many families.

Cases are going up, as was always going to happen, but the death rate staying so low each day is such a relief.

I’m relieved the vaccines must be working and I’m so happy for the all the the families in society who are no longer being ripped apart by losing their loved ones to such a horrible virus.

Maybe it’s because the sun is shining very beautifully where I am, but I’m feeling very positive this morning

I keep bumping up the other ‘deaths are low’ thread. Every day.

Doesn’t get much interest surprisingly. There’s a fixation with cases. Which were always going to go up once we opened up.

Honestly no one can ever post a slightly positive thread on here without people piling on with the usual 'just give it 3 weeks and people will be dropping dead in their hundreds narrative' At some point this must stop!

Surely there comes a point where we stop reporting daily deaths, cases, hospital numbers and just live our lives.

The vaccine roll out has been going well, we are in a much different place now due to that that we have been at any other point in the pandemic.

There’s only 2 cases in our local hospital, one is in there for other reasons (rather than Covid). I am feeling optimistic.

I feel quite positive that deaths are low. Im hoping this means the vaccine is working well enough. I do remember deaths being quite laggy after admissions - like 6 weeks? But i think we are at that point?

Yes, it's wonderful we have the vaccines. I was just thinking this morning how much better things are than this time last year. Speaking as someone who is double vaccinated and has had time for immunity to kick in.

We need to keep a careful eye on the things other people have mentioned though.

We know immunity can wane and we probably need booster doses for the autumn.

It's not clear how much of a problem long covid is going to be, and we need to support those people.

We need as a society to give careful consideration to the situation in schools, especially vulnerable children I think.

There may be other/ more issues in winter. (flu, variants, respiratory diseases are generally worse then).

Overall, however, it is indeed wonderful that we have the vaccines and that people are agreeing to have them.

I'm afraid it's too early to say. We had the same argument at the beginning of the second rise in cases. And it did take a few weeks before the hospitalisation and death rates started to climb.

However, I am cautiously optimistic. Few hospital cases are on ventilators at the moment, which is really good news.

It's strange and quite pathetic that some people are still hiding their head in the sand about long covid though. Long covid is real.

@Delatron

I keep bumping up the other ‘deaths are low’ thread. Every day.

Doesn’t get much interest surprisingly. There’s a fixation with cases. Which were always going to go up once we opened up.

I wish the government would start reporting hospital admissions /people in hospital instead. Which is actually the pertinent statistic now (I know this information is available, but it's not the news headline).

I don't actually care if 5000 people catch Covid mildly or asymptomatically (I'd prefer they weren't ill from a human decency perspective, of course, but this is not a big deal in the scheme of things). I do care whether my local hospital is swamped or if it only has 1 Covid case and that's someone who came in with a broken leg.

Yes I'm feeling positive too OP! Since May 17th things have felt back to normal in most ways, and for deaths to still be so low now (five weeks after that date) is really good. The vaccine programme is amazing.

I feel like people have been saying ‘give it a few weeks and deaths will rise’ for over a month now? Doesn’t look like we’re seeing that increase this time.

I’m sure before vaccines the number of cases we had about 3 weeks ago would’ve resulted in many more deaths now than we are seeing this time.

Fingers crossed

I am cautiously optimistic and hope this means the fantastic vaccination drive has worked.

@Geamhradh

But the end of that was always "until we have a functioning vaccine programme" wasn't it?

Yes and then…. Vaccinate the over 70s, and then… vaccinate the over 50s… and then… and then…

Yep it's good news but the dementors will be out in force predicting thousands of deaths in 3 weeks !! 🤣🤣

The ‘just wait a few weeks’ crowd have now switched to just wait for long Covid.
Basically, they refuse to be optimistic. Which is their funeral.

Let's get the pompoms and bunting out shall we, and have a big street party. Covid's over, yay!

Jesus, the cheerleading crowd is out in force this morning.

@3asAbird

We were constantly told last 18months or so

When cases are high hospital admissions and deaths will follow.
That there a 3 week lag.
That deaths are baked in.
If deaths are say 1% of cases for example and deaths go extra thousand.
For every 1000 caess would = 100 deaths.
I think too early count our chicken personally.

Deaths are NOT baked in when the demographic of people with covid changes First and second lockdown the people getting it were a mix of all ages and Health status therefore more deaths because more elderly and compromised people were getting it. Third wave cases are mostly younger healthier people who aren't vaccinated therefore deaths don't rise anywhere near the same way. Surely that's clear by now??

@QwertyGirly

I'm afraid it's too early to say. We had the same argument at the beginning of the second rise in cases. And it did take a few weeks before the hospitalisation and death rates started to climb.

However, I am cautiously optimistic. Few hospital cases are on ventilators at the moment, which is really good news.

It's strange and quite pathetic that some people are still hiding their head in the sand about long covid though. Long covid is real.

Does vaccination help?

Genuine question not being sarky I have no idea I assume it does

So are you still as concerned now we’re getting close to full vaccination - and yes I know we’re not there yet but will you stop saying but Long Covid when we are

If it turns out to be a higher risk for children JCVI will decide it’s a benefit to that group will vaccinate

Op yes it’s very good they are still this low

I know any optimism gets called cheerleading etc but yes it could be the opposite

The vaccines are holding

The death rates are of people who died within 28 days of getting a Covid diagnosis. In reality this means that some of them died of other causes and some died from Covid plus something else. The numbers for people who got Covid, became very ill and died will be very low indeed.

I am hopeful. But not quite convinced, yet

The next stage of release of restrictions is obviously significant and I need to feel convinced that the vaccination protection can work with that level of socislisation

@UpTheJunktion flu kills thousands every year

@MarshaBradyo sorry I didn't get the pompoms out to cheer the vaccines.

Didn't even mention them! It's a sin! I'm going to Mumnset hell!

@QwertyGirly same as the knock on effects from a bad pneumonia but we don't shut down every flu season

@3asAbird

We were constantly told last 18months or so

When cases are high hospital admissions and deaths will follow.
That there a 3 week lag.
That deaths are baked in.
If deaths are say 1% of cases for example and deaths go extra thousand.
For every 1000 caess would = 100 deaths.
I think too early count our chicken personally.

Quick maths or typing correction - in your example above if deaths were 1% of cases then 1000 cases would mean 10 deaths, not 100. Still 10 more than we want, but a very different scale from 100.

[quote QwertyGirly]@MarshaBradyo sorry I didn't get the pompoms out to cheer the vaccines.

Didn't even mention them! It's a sin! I'm going to Mumnset hell![/quote]
No you said oh look the cheerleading crowd. Which is trying to insult others. No one is making you say the same.

You don’t have to be optimistic but why be sarky if others are?

@iminthegarden ah yes, the flu. THE FLU. I forgot about the flu.

This thread is hilarious.