4000 women report period problems following vaccine

[WineGetsMeThroughIt]

I've just seen this on my Apple News but can't view it as I don't have a premium subscription. Has anyone read the full article? Is there someone similar that this information has been published? I'm really interested in what it says and what is going to be done - if anything?

@PurpleHoodie

Serious gynaecological illnesses that involve blood clots include endometriosis and adymyosis.

Some vaccines are creating additional health issues (and death) involving blood clots. As recorded by government measurements.

It makes sense for women to be informed - and cautious.

Send off yellow warning reports.

i agree that women need to be reporting any side effects, and I hope the MHRA take this as seriously as they are implying they are in the article linked

HOWEVER the likelihood of a vaccine causing adenomyosis (where the inner lining of the uterus breaks through the muscle wall of the uterus) or endometriosis (when the uterine line starts growing in other places) is basically nil.

It's not about causing the diseases.

It's about exacerbation.

But we won't know unless women report, are listened to and studied.

Medicine - as we know - is based on the male as default.

@PurpleHoodie

It's not about causing the diseases.

It's about exacerbation.

But we won't know unless women report, are listened to and studied.

Medicine - as we know - is based on the male as default.

But as far as I'm aware it's women in general reporting period-related symptoms, not just those with adenomyosis or endometriosis?

It's very easy to dismiss women with a "there, there, calm down dears".

Meanwhile, the issues reported surrounding some vaccines are about blood problems.

But as far as I'm aware it's women in general reporting period-related symptoms, not just those with adenomyosis or endometriosis?

Even more worrying. Best to report all these issues via the Yellow scheme.

@PurpleHoodie

It's very easy to dismiss women with a "there, there, calm down dears".

Meanwhile, the issues reported surrounding some vaccines are about blood problems.

but I don't think anyone is suggesting that? The quotes from the article definitely don't imply that attitude

this pre print was linked which I thought was informative and useful: osf.io/fxygt/

I just think we need to be careful not to scaremonger, and saying the vaccines could cause scary long term conditions like adenomyosis is not helpful to anyone

I'm 54 and I was peri for years and finally officially menopausal in 2016, started HRT in 2017. After my moderna vaccine (not in UK) I experienced horrendous bleeding on and off for weeks and ended up having a D&C. Gyna gave me meds to stop bleeding as it's all over the place. I suggested a link but she wasn't convinced. I'm pretty sure it's linked.

I've yellow carded that I've missed my periods since my second Pfizer

It would be good to see cold hard figures/data (anonymised) to the numbers of women with pre-existing blood issues v those without who report issues with their periods after vaccinations (of any kind). Or other medications actually.

It will help women in the future to make an informed consent.

Any vaccine can cause changes and menstrual cycles are affected by something as minor as a change in drinking water. It's not necessarily concerning at all.

I haven't had a period since I got first dose of Pfizer April 10th, had 2nd dose 15th May.

Doctors don't care though as I have the implant so in their mind that's the reason why, but I've explained on several occasions that I have always had regular periods every 28 days since first getting the implant 7 years ago (on my 3rd one now). I am actually more regular on the implant than I was when I wasn't on any contraceptive and was trying to conceive.

I have Covid right now. Period due in a week but came today. This has never ever happened. Can only assume it’s the virus.

First one after AZ was about 6 days late, second one was about a week early and now it's started again 5 days after finishing. Going for second vaccine tomorrow. Have not reported on yellow card yet as was waiting to see if anything else weird happened and will do it all in one go.

menstrual cycles are affected by something as minor as a change in drinking water. It's not necessarily concerning at all.

Of course. Post after post about it on here and us women were too thick to point to the drinking water, or the coincidence that this happens to our own bodies all the time without us noticing, or the goddess Freja winning an arm wrestle against Thor, or any other possible reason unrelated to The Thing That Must Never Be Doubted.

Instead women JUMPED to the conclusion that it could be the vaccine (either the vaccine or immune response similar to that of contracting the virus) and maybe should be, I don't know, perhaps........... investigated?

Do we think the very important scientists could spare a second to explain to us something that's been discussed for months now?

I just do not understand this obsession with never even being allowed to hint at thinking about questioning this vaccine. I find this phenomenon more worrying than I do the period side effects.

I'd have thought something related to reproduction would be pretty important to look into.

If 4000 men had reported losing ability to get an erection after the vaccine would the messaging be the same?

[quote winched]@WineGetsMeThroughIt I'm pretty sure this is a clipped version of what was a 2+ hour long podcast.

I saw it mentioned on reddit and tried to find info about the credentials behind the guy in white (Dr Robert Malone, who are they are claiming is one of the inventors behind mRNA vaccine technology). Couldn't find anything 'dodgy' on him except stuff about mRNA technology dating back years. (If anyone else does find something I'd welcome it)

However the guy who runs the podcast - there was some talk on reddit statistics that he's been guilty of doing weird calculations in the past (or at least drawing strange conclusions) regarding a covid in pregnancy study.

So... as with everything on the internet take it with a massive grain of salt and check for biases.

[/quote] Yes that's a clip from the podcast which was over 3 hours long. They were discussing a multitude of issues with the vaccines mainly Pfizer, and I'm sure some people might consider it an anti-vax type video but I felt Dr Malone in particular came across as very informed and credible. He said he had decided to have the vaccine once his concerns over potential Antibody-Dependent Enhancement with the vaccines had not materialized. The main gist of the video was that there are likely to be many more people suffering side-effects from the vaccines than are being reported and that governments and pharma companies are not being transparent about this.

@serenjico

menstrual cycles are affected by something as minor as a change in drinking water. It's not necessarily concerning at all.

Of course. Post after post about it on here and us women were too thick to point to the drinking water, or the coincidence that this happens to our own bodies all the time without us noticing, or the goddess Freja winning an arm wrestle against Thor, or any other possible reason unrelated to The Thing That Must Never Be Doubted.

Instead women JUMPED to the conclusion that it could be the vaccine (either the vaccine or immune response similar to that of contracting the virus) and maybe should be, I don't know, perhaps........... investigated?

Do we think the very important scientists could spare a second to explain to us something that's been discussed for months now?

I just do not understand this obsession with never even being allowed to hint at thinking about questioning this vaccine. I find this phenomenon more worrying than I do the period side effects.

THIS

The absolute dismissiveness of people in these threads is astounding. Any adverse symptoms people have within a positive test must be due to COVID but any adverse symptoms people have after the vaccine must be completely coincidental.

Dsis and I have both got extremely long period since getting infected with covid. I had 12 weeks of bleeding (with small breaks after taking and then stopping medicine gp gave to stop it) and dsis first period after covid got delayed and now she is on her fourth week of bleeding. Neither one off us have taken vaccinations yet.

@NiceGerbil

I'd have thought something related to reproduction would be pretty important to look into.

If 4000 men had reported losing ability to get an erection after the vaccine would the messaging be the same?

but they are looking at it? It say so in the article

I think the key thing is that right 74,304,520 vaccinations have been given (both doses). Say 10 million of those were to menstruating women, a total of 4000 have reported period-related symptoms.*

If in non-pandemic times, you asked 10 million women if they'd had anything strange happen to their periods in the last 6 weeks, you can bet a similar proportion would have reported positively. That's what the MHRA mean when they say it's currently comparable to the background rate.

*my numbers may be sketchy

No period this month but I’m on oestrogen tablets any way but will mention to the dr hopefully now my real menopause has started.

I have read about this - its an immune response - if you have an infection you can get a delayed or heavy period - its temporary -it is not something to be concerned about
I say this as someone who use to have a very odd (erratic) & long & heavy periods - & if it happened to me knowing this I wouldn't be much concerned

@Backyard72

I watched a video with one of the inventors of mRNA technology, in which a Japanese scientific paper was referenced showing that 48 hours post Pfizer vaccination, ovaries are the site of highest level of accumulation of the lipid nanoparticles used to encapsulate the RNA in the vaccine. This apparently was completely unexpected, and he said quite concerning.

Yes I saw this too.

I use a the Eve period app & my can see that my periods are every 28-29 days
Since my first AZ jab my next period was normal (occurred 5 days after the jab & was bang on 28 days after my last period)
The period after that was 10 days late. (2nd period since jab & was longer & heavier)
Then had my 2nd AZ jab in May & I'm overdue period No3 by 20 days so far.
I am definitely not pregnant.
I've yellow carded it.

I had no issues after my first vaccine but the second one definitely messed my cycle up. My period is very regular and like clockwork, every 27 days. I was so shocked that i was late that I panicked and got a pregnancy test. It was only delayed by a few days but was a complete shock to me and I did research to see if the vaccine might have caused it. Was surprised to see that i wasn’t the only one.

The next cycle was also off, it occurred 3 days early. Again, very strange for me as I’ve been regular since birth DS2. It seems to have sorted itself out now.

No harm done as far as I can tell but i would be really annoyed if I was trying to conceive and wasn’t warned that it might temporarily disrupt my regular cycle. It can be difficult getting pregnant even when you know when your fertile days are.

Also had flu like symptoms after both AZ jabs but it was far worse after the 2nd jab (but I think I may have caught a cold at the same time as the DC had colds too)