Anyone feeling increasingly anxious about Pfizer?

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With all the news re the AZ & J&J vaccines I can’t help but feel a sense of dread when checking the news.

I am starting to think it’s only a matter of time until something horrific comes out about the Pfizer vaccine (which I had)

What a strange time to be alive. Sometimes I still can’t believe this is all happening.

[quote Fortherosesjoni70]Paracetamol risks taken from here.
Im sure most people have taken paracetamol.

www.drugs.com/sfx/paracetamol-side-effects.html[/quote]
Not often, last time was when I had Covid over a year ago. One pill a couple of nights running. Normally don't take anything.

The point is that it is common place for people to use paracetamol. Most people are fine.

I thought the hypothesis was it’s likely to be the adenovirus vaccines

J&J AZ Sinovac and Sputnik and we need data from the last two

Just heard briefly on radio so fine to be corrected

Re these sorts of threads. Have people forgotten we've been locked in for over a year. What sort of life is worth living with barely any liberty? I'll take the (miniscule) risk of vaccine side effects for a normal rest of my life. And to protect those with much greater risk from covid.
Ps I had az vaccine as a 28yr old and I will take the 2nd jab as I trust scientists and if they reckon the 2nd jab will be fine if you've not had a clot from the first, then that's good for me. I am so, so grateful we have vaccines to have this choice and grateful we are able to access them easily in this country.

COVID is known to cause blood clots, at a much greater rate than the vaccine. Your chances of catching COVID is much much higher if you don't get the vaccine.

@TheThingsWeAdmitOnMN such a thoughtful and kind response

But given the hundreds of millions of people vaccinated - anything that now comes out about Pfizer would have less chance of occurring then the AZ blood clots. Anything that could come out would now occur to so few people per millions I’m not sure they could ever correlate it to the vaccine. Side effects from vaccines only ever occur within the first few weeks of administering vaccines (just as the blood clot does for AZ). There’s never been a vaccine to ever cause side effects after more than a month of receiving the dose.

Because I never expected I’d be seeing what’s happened with the other vaccines, so now I’m expecting the unexpected.

Really? Given the sheer volume of people that have been vaccinated in such a short space of time I’m surprised there haven’t been more serious side effects tbh.

too late to worry about it now, the clots are in the few days/week after not yonks past when you had it., and the risk is small compared to covid

There's already reported adverse effect cases regards to Pfizer in the news, just that it doesn't seem to get focused on like AZ did. The thing is, it's rare, same as AZ.

I'm fully Pfizered and Pfeeling Pfabulous! I was nervous at the time of my vaccine but not as terrified as I was a catching covid. I am at a slightly higher risk of covid complications. I'm 6 weeks post second jab now so not at all worried.

Vaccines aren't anything new though. All vaccines and meds can cause potential side effects.

The numbers of clotting are so tiny, but they are being cautious. What's the alternative, go back to 1800 deaths a day and total lockdown

You'd be better off starting a thread on a mental health board asking for advice for your health anxiety, because that's what this is. It'd be a better use of your time and energy, you'd get informed advice from folk who've recovered from HA and you'd be doing something positive about your anxiety in general.

Mostly what you'll get from posting here is reassurance, which I'm assuming you know doesn't work for health anxiety. You'll feel better for a short time then doubts will creep back in.

I say this kindly, as someone who suffered from health anxiety for decades but has now recovered. Speculating about imaginary side effects from a vaccine is pure HA.

It's just so weird that people are more anxious about the vaccine than they are about the actual virus. However you cut the figures, whatever your personal risk, it's just so obvious which one is the bigger potential threat.

I can just see people in 30 or 40 years time being diagnosed with cancer, or a blood clot, or dementia and blaming the cv vaccine they had in 2021.

@User890156 pandemrix was months later!

I think there is another vaccine to worry about now, the Johnson and Johnson one, in the USA has been stopped for now, for reasons concerning blood clots.. I don't suppose there is anything amiss with any of the vaccines, it may be that a certain few people in the world. have a different genetic condition, that any vaccine can't tackle.or will cause some problems.

Pandemrix was absolutely not months later! So few cases meant it didn’t show up in trials and took ages to correlate with the vaccine. The symptoms for these small number of patients it affected however began within weeks!!

i despair at these posts, I really do. I think one of the worst things about this pandemic has been that it's made even the stupidest of people think they understand science and medicine because the development of these drugs has been played out in real time, and unfortunately we all have to listen to them.

OP, do you have the flu vaccine? Do you vaccinate your children, or take any other medications, like the pill or painkillers? Do you have a preference for any one brand of these meds and bleat on like this, or do you just get what you are given because you understand that you are not a doctor or a pharmaceutical scientist and you trust that people who have spent their entire careers training for something may know slightly more than you?

Here's the listing of adverse-effects already reported via the yellow-card system. There have been 302 deaths reported after the Pfizer jab. People should be anxious and cautious, considering these are only the immediate or fairly quick effects after just 3 months of rollout and no-one knows what medium- to long-term effects could surface months or years down the road.

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The media is NOT talking about most of these, but is just focusing on a few rare kinds of brain clot so you don't go looking for anything further.

Anyone urging you to just go and get your jab/your 2nd jab is not the person who might have to live with life-long adverse consequences.

By the way, VAERS reporting in the US has listed 1124 deaths from the Pfizer jab (click on Deaths to see the list, and comparison with other vaccines).

www.openvaers.com/covid-data

Covid is also a good one for lifelong adverse consequences.

Life has risks. Suck it up, buttercup.

It's just so weird that people are more anxious about the vaccine than they are about the actual virus. However you cut the figures, whatever your personal risk, it's just so obvious which one is the bigger potential threat.

Yep. Also that we’ve gone from being concerned no vaccine would work to seeing good results in say, Israel but still people post negatively about the scientific breakthrough.

We’d be in a very bad place without the vaccines.

I think you have to remember that what is happening is fairly normal in the life cycle of any new medicine. The difference is that there has never been a new medicine that has been rolled out so extensively to such a huge number of people in such a short space of time (at least I don't think there has?). So, side effects and deaths are happening in a concentrated time frame, instead of over several years.

For example, if the AZ vaccine had been given to 18 million people over a period of 5 years and there had been 19 deaths over those 5 years from blood clots, would you still be worried about the risk?

No-one knows what medium- to long-term effects could surface months or years down the road

But that is the case for any new medicine.

It's just so weird that people are more anxious about the vaccine than they are about the actual virus. However you cut the figures, whatever your personal risk, it's just so obvious which one is the bigger potential threat.
I think for me it's because the only risk is my age (thirties), have anxiety about medications in general (taken nothing in over a year), and I've had Covid, 'better the devil...' I guess.