Anyone feeling increasingly anxious about Pfizer?

[Doireallyneedaname]

With all the news re the AZ & J&J vaccines I can’t help but feel a sense of dread when checking the news.

I am starting to think it’s only a matter of time until something horrific comes out about the Pfizer vaccine (which I had)

What a strange time to be alive. Sometimes I still can’t believe this is all happening.

[quote Doireallyneedaname]@Scottishgirl85 I can’t think of any medicine I’ve taken that has a risk of CVST after one dose.[/quote]
I guarantee some drugs/vaccinations that you already will have had will have had a very small risk of death. They all do.

There is risk with everything. Do you drive? Small risk of death from that? Cross roads? Small risk of death? Get on a plane? Small risk of death.

CV vaccines are less risky than all of the above.

Not anxious at all; very happy and relieved we had it.

We have both had both pfizer jabs with no ill effects. We have every reason to think it's giving us protection because our (ONS) antibody blood tests are positive.

How have you had the vaccine by now if you are 30 and healthy, was it down to your occupation?

[quote Doireallyneedaname]@ineedaholidaynow This isn’t DVT though, is it.[/quote]
Does it matter what something actually kills you of though? The thing you're presumably worried about is dying? Does it matter if it's from chest trauma, a DVT, a stroke, a heart attack, a rare clotting disorder?

@Doireallyneedaname you were saying it is not the same sort of clot, and it isn’t, but DVT can kill you too

Which is highest? The Covid risk or the clot risk? Just chose which one is the better odds and go for that one!

[quote Doireallyneedaname]@Scottishgirl85 I can’t think of any medicine I’ve taken that has a risk of CVST after one dose.[/quote]
Has Pfizer had issues reported?

@titchy Not necessarily. As someone whose parent was left in a vegetative state due to a stroke, I have fear of more than just death.

Have you had a child? I had complications after giving birth which if not sorted out could have killed me. Never crossed my mind when TTC that I could have died, but there is a risk.

Have had both jabs (Pfizer) First at the end of Dec, second early March. Absolutely no ill effects and am still delighted to have had it.

@Doireallyneedaname

Are people not allowed to be worried anymore?

Yes, you're allowed to worry.

Likewise people are allowed to tell you you're worrying about nothing.

🤷🏻‍♀️

We have vaccines which are WAY more effective against Covid than they dreamed they could be.

NO medication is completely risk free.

Vaccinations don't show problems 'long term' because they're injected and cause your body to create an antibody then they leave. The vaccination doesn't stay in your body.

They are different clots, yes, but they can be treated and are not necessarily fatal, people just need to be aware if the symptoms and see a Dr.

Whereas Covid, even if you don't end up on a ventilator, it can still cause very serious issues (including clots!)

You're worrying unnessesarily.

Honestly. 💐

'sense of dread' ... 'horrific' .... nothing horrific has emerged about any vaccine so far.

Maybe book to see your doctor about your irrational anxiety?

As a side effect of paracetamol:

Hematologic
Common (1% to 10%): Anemia, postoperative hemorrhage

Very rare (less than 0.01%): Thrombocytopenia, leucopenia, neutropenia[Ref]

Everytime you take paracetamol you risk Trhomocytopenia.

Do you:
take hormonal contraception?
Go on long haul flights?
Get in a car daily?
Take paracetamol?

All more risky.

The risk of the horrible blood clot caused by AZ occurring is the same as you dying from a road traffic accident every 3 months the exact same chances! Can you explain why you aren’t concerned about dying from a road traffic accident?

@TheFlis12345

Nothing ‘horrific’ has come out about the other 2 vaccines so why would it about Pfizer? The blood clot hysteria is absolutely ridiculous, the risk is less than long haul flying and way, way less than taking the contraceptive pill or 101 other medications.

If you don't take any medications then there is nothing to compare the risk to though. I won't be flying long haul for some time but when I have I don't sit still, constantly shifting position, barely sleep, so I think my risk there is low.

@User890156 Maybe you haven’t read my post so I’ll state again that I’m worried about what could come out about Pfizer, now the blood clots associated with AZ specifically.

[quote Doireallyneedaname]@titchy Not necessarily. As someone whose parent was left in a vegetative state due to a stroke, I have fear of more than just death.[/quote]
Partly my point. Risk of this type of thing from getting even a 'mild' case of Covid is FAR FAR higher than any risk from the vaccine.

Paracetamol risks taken from here.
Im sure most people have taken paracetamol.

www.drugs.com/sfx/paracetamol-side-effects.html

No just had second dose, very glad to be avoiding risk of covid and the risk of blood clots/vascular issues etc associated with covid - higher than with vaccine.

Do you have DC? Just to put it into perspective the blood clot risk post birth - 6 weeks is 1-2 in every 10,000 The covid jab is less than 1 in 100,000.

Did you worry about blood clots after birth or did you just get on with life?

There are side effects / risks that come with every drug and vaccine.

If you don't want it then don't have it. I'd personally rather not get or spread covid. Each to their own.

Fed up of fear being whipped up by the media.

An epidemiologist i follow has stated the blood clot issue was seen in the trials for AZ and JJ. They haven’t in the Pfizer and moderna and have not reported any in the vaccine rollout

It’s not abnormal to worry OP - but I’ve always told myself and my kids not to waste time worrying about things you can’t change . I’ve had my vaccine - can’t change that - so there is no point at all winding myself up about it . If something does go wrong then I will have to deal with it ... worrying just wastes good times .

In reality in my life - nearing 50 - the things that have happened to me in life have been those I really didn’t see coming at all .

Try and move your brain on to better things OP when you catch yourself

@HerRoyalNotness

An epidemiologist i follow has stated the blood clot issue was seen in the trials for AZ and JJ. They haven’t in the Pfizer and moderna and have not reported any in the vaccine rollout

I dont think it was shown in the trials. I am sure it only came to light once it was given on mass to the public? Also it is possible that the pfizer isnt showing anything because it has not been used as much.