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Anyone feeling increasingly anxious about Pfizer?

261 replies

Doireallyneedaname · 13/04/2021 17:55

With all the news re the AZ & J&J vaccines I can’t help but feel a sense of dread when checking the news.

I am starting to think it’s only a matter of time until something horrific comes out about the Pfizer vaccine (which I had)

What a strange time to be alive. Sometimes I still can’t believe this is all happening.

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Sunshinegirl82 · 14/04/2021 19:28

@SmallTownSouthernGirl

If you sat 20 million people in chairs for 2 hours, some of them would become unwell, it's almost a certainty at those numbers. Some during, some shortly afterwards. That doesn't mean sitting in the chair was responsible for the illness.

pinkearedcow · 14/04/2021 19:35

[quote Sunshinegirl82]@SmallTownSouthernGirl

If you sat 20 million people in chairs for 2 hours, some of them would become unwell, it's almost a certainty at those numbers. Some during, some shortly afterwards. That doesn't mean sitting in the chair was responsible for the illness. [/quote]
WHY can't people understand this?

Mybestestfriend · 14/04/2021 19:48

A third of children with the inflammatory response to Covid are suffering from brain damage including hallucinations. A significant number of children have long Covid. Many of us have lost parents and grandparents. Whichever way you look, some people are going to get hurt here.

Many women take the pill knowing there is a small risk of very serious side effects. They go ahead and take that risk. I take Covid very seriously and don't blindly accept every vaccination I'm offered. I've had the Pfizer and as a woman under 50 I think that was the right vaccination to have had. But at some point we had to get out of this situation with vaccines.

Motorina · 14/04/2021 20:06

I've had a life-threatening reaction to paracetamol. Fortunately my parents (medical family) recognised it early and so toddler-me didn't die.

If you gave the whole population paracetamol there would be a small number of serious reactions. Maybe even deaths. It would be more obvious if you gave everyone the drug over a short period. And even more obvious if it was a drug that the media were very very interested in, and so reporting every possible issue.

Yet paracetamol remains a very safe and effective drug.

EmmaOvary · 14/04/2021 20:14

'There is an excellent article in private eye this week about the vaccine. It said of the 4.4 million people who've had covid, and they if they'd been vaccinated 5 would have died from a blood clot. Instead 128'000+ are dead.
Those that have been hospitalised with covid, 1 in 4 had a blood clot.

I know which chance I'd take.'

Exactly this. Is there anything else to say?

Doireallyneedaname · 14/04/2021 20:30

Urgh.

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Doireallyneedaname · 14/04/2021 20:30

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Anyone feeling increasingly anxious about Pfizer?
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Calyx72 · 14/04/2021 20:35

Considering you have had the vaccine, this rumination / anxiety is not helping you, in any way. My advice if you don't mind, is look up tips on how to stop rumination Thanks

pinkearedcow · 14/04/2021 20:45

@Doireallyneedaname that is 6 cases out of 6.8 million doses. @Sunshinegirl82's analogy is what you need to focus on.

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 14/04/2021 21:18

6 cases out of all the vaccines given, the risk is miniscule.

OP have you read the balanced posts? You seem to be posting more and more anti vax stuff.

Doireallyneedaname · 14/04/2021 21:35

@HercwasanEnemyofEducation how is it anti vax!? The above image was posted by an infectious disease and internal medicine physician who is, as you can imagine, extremely PRO vax.

If you think the factual info regarding the vaccine is anti vax, what does that say!?

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Doireallyneedaname · 14/04/2021 21:39

@pinkearedcow Sure. Somehow my original concern has been lost in translation.

I am not scared that I am going to develop the issues related to the AZ vaccine. I am concerned about what is going to come out about the Pfizer vaccine, which I have already had.

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Doireallyneedaname · 14/04/2021 21:40

@Calyx72 That’s actually helpful. Thank you.

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HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 14/04/2021 21:43

I don't think that post is anti vax, it says 6 people have had a blood clot. That's a tiny amount.

But your posts are encouraging people not to have the vaccine by making them worry about something that has an incredibly small chance of happening. The chance of a blood clot post vaccine is about the same as the chance of getting a blood clot anyway.

Your posts could encourage people to not vaccinate. Your posts aren't based on much rational fact, instead a lot of hype and anxiety.

We need people vaccinated to get out of this mess, as the figures are showing. Look at France, low vaccine rate and back in lockdown.

Moondust001 · 14/04/2021 21:47

[quote Doireallyneedaname]@pinkearedcow Sure. Somehow my original concern has been lost in translation.

I am not scared that I am going to develop the issues related to the AZ vaccine. I am concerned about what is going to come out about the Pfizer vaccine, which I have already had.[/quote]
I hate to burst your bubble - or perhaps it will be a service to you. It's already come out and months ago. The Pfizer vaccine may be connected to some very serious side effects including death. There have been a very small number of cases just as there have been with the other vaccines, every form of medication (chemical or natural) known to human kind, and statistically insignificant compared to, say, driving a car.

But since you have had the vaccine and managed to survive some time and several pages of drivel, I suspect you will be ok.

Doireallyneedaname · 14/04/2021 21:53

@Moondust001 There have been zero reported cases of thrombocytopenia & CVST following over 100 million Pfizer vaccinations administered. What deaths have you read about that have been linked?

You’re not really “bursting my bubble” in any case because I’m already prepared for the fact that something is likely to reveal itself, hence this post and my concerns.

@HercwasanEnemyofEducation Don’t be so outrageous. I’m not encouraging anyone to avoid getting vaccinated. I have been vaccinated. Not everyone that has concerns regarding vaccination is anti vax. What you’re suggesting is that everyone should shut up and put up for the greater good. News flash, that’s not how life works. We are human and we have feelings, worries & emotions that are not always positive.

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HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 14/04/2021 22:00

You're spreading fear. This thread is feeding your anxiety. You've had the vaccine, that's great, others aren't so lucky.

You’re not really “bursting my bubble” in any case because I’m already prepared for the fact that something is likely to reveal itself, hence this post and my concerns.

Statements like this aren't rational. You really do need to speak to someone about your health anxiety.

It's unlikely any major side effects will be found. It's even less likely that if they are, you will be affected.

Humans are shit at evaluating risk. Nothing shows it more than this thread.

saraclara · 14/04/2021 22:57

It is not the people being vaccinated who are unusual. It’s you

Yep.

Moondust001 · 15/04/2021 07:48

[quote Doireallyneedaname]@Moondust001 There have been zero reported cases of thrombocytopenia & CVST following over 100 million Pfizer vaccinations administered. What deaths have you read about that have been linked?

You’re not really “bursting my bubble” in any case because I’m already prepared for the fact that something is likely to reveal itself, hence this post and my concerns.

@HercwasanEnemyofEducation Don’t be so outrageous. I’m not encouraging anyone to avoid getting vaccinated. I have been vaccinated. Not everyone that has concerns regarding vaccination is anti vax. What you’re suggesting is that everyone should shut up and put up for the greater good. News flash, that’s not how life works. We are human and we have feelings, worries & emotions that are not always positive.[/quote]
I have posted links on multiple occasions and I am fed up of doing so. Facts appear not to have much relevance on these types of threads. Try using Google - it's easy to find the information. There is no such thing as a 100% safe anything. Life isn't 100% safe. But you are being ridiculous, and given that you have had the vaccine and managed to survive, I do wonder why stir up "what people should be worrying about" when you don't even know what it is they should be worrying about?

All the vaccines are as safe as it gets. And an awful lot safer than Covid (at any age) is.

bumblingbovine49 · 15/04/2021 07:56

Look of course there is likely to be sone incredibly rare effect from all the vaccines. Modern medicine is like that almost all treatments or drugs have rare side effects. Vaccines are in fact incredibly safe. The AZ one is very safe. I'm pretty certain the Pfizer one will turn out to have some miniscule risks of something. We already know it triggers severe allergic reactions in a tiny number of people. I agree with this part of your op , I just don't agree with your conclusion that it is something to worry about. I'd happily take either vaccine again. I've already had the AZ one

roguetomato · 15/04/2021 09:15

If you are worried, then keep an eye on the news, and keep an eye on your own body and reactions.
I have to agree, every vaccine anxiety threads do spread fear to others, regardless of if it's OP's intention or not.

JassyRadlett · 15/04/2021 09:20

When I was in my early 20s I had an incredibly rare reaction to an antibiotic I was prescribed. It sent me into bone marrow failure. I nearly died, and I have lasting consequences 20 years later.

Based on the current data, that incredibly rare side effect was about 5 times more likely than CVST after the AZ vaccine.

I was very unlucky but it’s without doubt that the antibiotic in question has had a huge positive impact on the world and saved very many more lives than it cost in rare side effects.

Should the regulator have pulled it because some very few people reacted the way I did? Clearly not. Should my doctor have pressed the very rare risks on me when it was prescribed? Probably not. (She probably should have considered the antibiotic as a potential cause sooner than she did, though.)

If 20 million people had received the antibiotic in a three month period would the very rare side effect have made screeching headlines? Well, probably. But I’d be confident that it was still saving more lives and preventing more harm.

And that’s why, despite a history of drug-induced thrombocytopaenia, I’m happily lining up for my second dose of AZ next month.

I’m also driving 200 miles in my car today on a totally non-essential journey. My chance of death from either the AZ jab or that car trip are pretty similar. And I get nowhere near the benefit from the car trip as I do from reducing the risks that come with Covid, even in groups at low risk of death.

tinathetalkingturtle · 15/04/2021 10:31

Had my Pfizers late December and early Jan, all well here :)

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 15/04/2021 10:36

@JassyRadlett Another calm and reasoned post.

A relative has a very rare disease which no one knows how/where it came from. It's not genetic and it could have been medication she took when under 12. No one will ever know if it was the medication or just one of those things. She is so grateful for any medical treatment and is one of the most positive people I know. Life is for living not worrying about every tiny thing.