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People are going to start feeling a bit silly

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LemonSherbetFancies · 05/04/2021 13:20

So many talking about how this is the great reset, how this doesn't stop until we say it does and how we are never coming out of lockdown etc.
Think they are going to feel a bit stupid over the coming weeks!

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btwwhichonespink · 09/04/2021 17:41

Also, don't forget there was a period last year where government and media (in the UK and abroad) were constantly talking about 'resetting' and 'pushing the reset button' and 'building back better'. Dropping these phrases everywhere like some kind of masonic handshake I heard that government officials had been told to stop saying it in public because it was fuelling the view that covid was the cover for the Great Reset.

DreamingofDalyan · 11/04/2021 04:43

People with a logical mind will know something is off with the whole situation. We may never find out the reason or truth may come out years from you.
I always thought our freedoms would have been fought harder for and the scary thought for me is that we are all controlled. We have zero power and we are all conforming. When you watch handmaid's tale and laugh and call it farfetched then this shit show starts and suddenly you can see that men and power and a crazy idea making sense as in the show is not as farfetched as you thought and suddenly becomes bloody terrifying.
Because realistically if they want us in lockdown for years it will happen, they don't care about our mental health or any type of health apart from covid. Or the ability to use covid as an excuse for whatever the hell they want.

TheReluctantPhoenix · 11/04/2021 07:04

@DreamingofDalyan,

I would take the opposite perspective. I remember, before I even knew lockdown was a thing, and we had a handful of cases in the U.K., doing a simple spreadsheet of the exponential growth and realising we would have 1mio cases within a few weeks. And, up until lockdown, my spreadsheet worked pretty well.

If you have a logical mind, you will realise that in a pandemic, you have competing rights. The ‘freedoms’ and ‘rights’ that we are used to versus the freedoms and rights for everyone to move around safely and to get medical treatment when they are sick.

I feel that in traditional democracies, governments have tried to address this as openly as possible, publishing their expert advice and regularly explaining their decisions. That does not mean mistakes were not made or that, with hindsight, we would not have done things slightly differently.

And, as is typical in times of stress, some have made a quick buck unethically, this fails to reach the standard of some kind of global conspiracy led by figures in the shadows.

COVID has not gone away (in any sense) and might never go away as a background virus. However, within a couple of years, we will be able to live with it and can expect ‘normal life’ to resume fully (it should be much closer to normal within 3 months). If that does not happen, I would change my mind.

Until then, the usual applies: a combination of carelessness and venality of a few at the top.

ChubbyLittleManInACampervan · 11/04/2021 08:15

I’m with @DreamingofDalyan

Some things are not adding up

Parliament was rendered a shadow of it’s former self, and we were (and still are) ruled by an unelected committee

New laws, such as 10yrs prison if you lie about what country you traveled from are just Shock

Police now no longer protect us, they are there to control us

Our freedom and democracy are not back yet, by the way. I believe we’ll get them back when we HAVE them back

Until then, I can quite imagine being in lockdown again (we still are in many ways now) whenever Covid numbers go up again

We’ve been made to worship the NhS, the “amazing NHS”, as a deity, the cornerstone of our civilisation (remember the Olympics? And the included worship of “our nhs”) for a long time. We have now given up our freedom and democracy to “save the NHS”

I just can’t see a way out

If the NHS needs trumps our freedom, we’ll never have our freedom back

pommedeterre · 11/04/2021 08:55

I agree about the NHS worship. Strange given that despite the talents of the doctors and nurses there admin system runs like an absolute bag of nails most of the time.

The lockdown to save the NHS does ignore the principle that the NHS is funded by us working. Not sure how that gets resolved if we're to be in and out of lockdown in the next few years.

btwwhichonespink · 11/04/2021 10:48

@TheReluctantPhoenix I didn't realise we had Neil Ferguson in the house! Well if your Excel modelling showed you 1 million cases by April then who are we to argue?

Balancing competing rights is one thing. Banning outward travel but allowing inward travel and all the other nonsensical rules don't meet that criteria at all.

You acknowledge the corruption, that's something at least. But you explain it away as innocent. Which is disappointing.

What you are asking is for people to ignore the evidence of their education, personal experience and the very evidence of their eyes and listen to you and your 'pissed off middle classes' explanations.

Please feel free to delude yourself but your patronising and ill-informed lectures aren't really bringing anything to the debate for the rest of us.

btwwhichonespink · 11/04/2021 10:50

PS @TheReluctantPhoenix Also happy to come back to this in 3 months. I think there will be passports and people being banned form places without tests next Autumn. I've got a woolly hat ready to eat if I am wrong, and it will be the best tasting hat ever. I hope, I pray I am wrong.

HunkyPunk · 11/04/2021 11:51

Here's where BoJo has been this morning. Truro...in a Café! No social distancing, no masks, more than two households, indoors! One rule for us and one for him! Photos were quickly removed from the FB page which posted them. Why was that?

It doesn't seem to be on mainstream media, either (BBC, ITV etc). Again - why is that?

pinkearedcow · 11/04/2021 12:07

It's in the Daily Depress Hunky and probably others too.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1420521/boris-johnson-face-mask-coronavirus-rules-guidelines-latest-cornwall-visit

HunkyPunk · 11/04/2021 12:33

Ah, ok. I suppose it's the BBC I'm most concerned about. They seem to be back in the 1950s as far as lack of criticism of the establishment goes.

ShyButMiffed · 18/05/2021 12:31

@LemonSherbetFancies

So many talking about how this is the great reset, how this doesn't stop until we say it does and how we are never coming out of lockdown etc. Think they are going to feel a bit stupid over the coming weeks!
This post and the subsequent gloating about "conspiracy theorists" has not aged well. World Economic Forum just deleted a roundly mocked tweet stating "Get your COVID-19 jab - or you could face consequences from your employer" (which shares the astonishing news that a WEF survey agreed with WEF idology). It also has the hashtag #JobsReset21

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