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washthem · 2021-04-05T07:27:41+00:00

My in-laws are acting like it's all disappeared over night. Travelling to london, going out for lunches and dinners in people's houses etc. They're vaccinated now so I suppose they don't mind. They've all but invited themselves around to ours in a couple of weeks time!

Mojoj · 05/04/2021 15:34

Not sure how else they're supposed to behave if they're all vaccinated?

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 15:36

I know what you said @Alsohuman. But it confused me (doesn't take much!) Rates were low in the summer because so many people were meeting outside. By the end of Sept they were up again partly - I assume because of more household mixing. Aren't the figures reported always a week or more behind the actual cases diagnosed? Not sure if we are agreeing or disagreeing. All I'm saying is that because lots of people in the 40-50 age group are not yet vaccinated and many of the 65-70s have only had 1 jab, it's a bit too soon for a free for all.

It's hard to get the right balance. I think shops should have been allowed to open sooner as they can control numbers, but on the other hand I look at France and Germany (and yes they have not vaccinated many people ) and that's a disaster.

CakeByTheSea · 05/04/2021 15:37

@SmidgenofaPigeon

I’m a pregnant woman, I am having the vaccine. Pregnant women can be vaccinated if they are offered, if they decide to. Please don’t spread misinformation.

www.rcog.org.uk/en/guidelines-research-services/coronavirus-covid-19-pregnancy-and-womens-health/covid-19-vaccines-and-pregnancy/covid-19-vaccines-pregnancy-and-breastfeeding/

March 2021 advice from RCOG is pasted above, I would hardly call that misinformation

“The latest advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is that COVID-19 vaccines should be considered for pregnant women when their risk of exposure to the virus is high and cannot be avoided, or if the woman has underlying conditions that place her at high risk of complications from COVID-19.”

The majority of pregnant women will not fall into either of those categories and will remain unvaccinated. I am glad that you are having a vaccine, you clearly meet the criteria. My daughter would love to be vaccinated but does not fall into the above groups and has to be very careful, the worry is that others around her will no longer be being Covid careful.

Arrowheart · 05/04/2021 15:38

Good for them

UrAWizHarry · 05/04/2021 15:40

@JinglingHellsBells

I would take a guess that none of the 'Enough is enough' brigade are data scientists, or epidemiologists, or virologists, or anything with a 'ists' on the end

But hey- they know better than those lot.

They can gaze into their crystal balls and know exactly what's going to happen if only we all just threw caution to the wind and got out there and did whatever we wanted to.

Why did no one else think of that?

I actually have a masters in data science. Regardless, I actually do think I know better than the twats currently running this shitshow in a lot of ways.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 05/04/2021 15:41

Well you could tell your daughter to look into the scientific research as I have. I’m not just having the vaccine because I meet the criteria, I’m having it because I’ve pored over a lot of information and come to the conclusion that it is not unsafe for pregnant women to be vaccinated. In the US pregnant women are routinely being vaccinated against C19. It’s wrong to state that pregnant women CAN’T be vaccinated, which is what you said originally, @CakeByTheSea.

pixie09 · 05/04/2021 15:45

@washthem

Me too. Wanted my child to see the grandparents, that's why we went to see them, everyone's happy. It's insane to continue with this project fear now. When would people wake up to see it.

SueSaid · 05/04/2021 15:47

'I would take a guess that none of the 'Enough is enough' brigade are data scientists, or epidemiologists, or virologists, or anything with a 'ists' on the end'

Yes we need one of them advising government clearly!

It has been an awful year obviously, the deaths and despair have been horrendous. So depressing to see these bright sparks commenting repeatedly that they'll do as they like, suggesting it's all been over egged (but not offering any theory on why tf anyone would want to keep restrictions if not needed..) and they won't be vaccinated, or stick to the guidance yet they will of course complain v loudly if it all kicks off again.

StealthPolarBear · 05/04/2021 15:52

You don't think there'll be plenty of pregnant women working for the NHS, or as carers?

StealthPolarBear · 05/04/2021 15:53

And didn't you say pregnant women can't have thw vaccine? Could be wrong.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 05/04/2021 15:54

@StealthPolarBear yes, it was said by that poster pregnant women CAN’T have the vaccine, which is obviously wrong. Thousands of pregnant healthcare workers have had it, obviously.

SueSaid · 05/04/2021 15:55

'It's insane to continue with this project fear now. When would people wake up to see it'

Have you seen the road map? Shops and hairdressers opening next week. The medical advisors have said repeatedly there needs to be 5 weeks to review data between each stage. Not so much project fear rather evidence based progress.

sleepwouldbenice · 05/04/2021 16:14

@JaniieJones

'It's insane to continue with this project fear now. When would people wake up to see it'

Have you seen the road map? Shops and hairdressers opening next week. The medical advisors have said repeatedly there needs to be 5 weeks to review data between each stage. Not so much project fear rather evidence based progress.

Yep forgot another couple of word bingo phrases.....project fear and wake up. As opposed to I just don’t want to do it

rainbowballs · 05/04/2021 16:16

@TristantheTyrannosaurus

So people who are fully vaccinated still need to be locked up? Right. That's so going to work.

No of course not. Just so annoying for us younger people that haven't been vaccinated yet and seem to have given up the most over the last year.

Undisclosedlocation · 05/04/2021 16:32

“My son is in Y11 and it has been a horrible year for him, but I would rather people stuck to the rules so bubbles didn’t have to keep bursting in schools to give kids a chance that they can finally have some proper time in school."

That’s just as selfish an attitude as any of the rule breakers tbh. Exactly what risk would a pair of vaccinated elderly friends having coffee together indoors do to risk your sons education?

StealthPolarBear · 05/04/2021 16:35

Potentially they'd contribute to a rise in rates which would mean further restrictions

Undisclosedlocation · 05/04/2021 16:38

Read it properly......both are fully vaccinated.

StealthPolarBear · 05/04/2021 16:43

I did. Your point?

sleepwouldbenice · 05/04/2021 16:45

Get yourself educated. Can still pass it on. Although at lower risk
For the last time for the really really stubborn. We haven't got sufficient proportion of the population fully vaccinated yet

DeadButDelicious · 05/04/2021 16:51

We obeyed Teh Rulez yesterday and spent a lovely but bloody cold afternoon in my mums front garden. The sun was out but the wind was bitter so we sat shivering in our big coats. My mum is in her 70's my dads his 60's they are both feeling the effects of this today.

My parents, myself and my brother have all been vaccinated. My 4 year old desperately wants to spend more time with her grandparents. From Monday I can go to bloody primark and get my hair done, I'm not sitting shivering in the cold to see my parents.

TristantheTyrannosaurus · 05/04/2021 16:53

@DeadButDelicious

We obeyed Teh Rulez yesterday and spent a lovely but bloody cold afternoon in my mums front garden. The sun was out but the wind was bitter so we sat shivering in our big coats. My mum is in her 70's my dads his 60's they are both feeling the effects of this today.

My parents, myself and my brother have all been vaccinated. My 4 year old desperately wants to spend more time with her grandparents. From Monday I can go to bloody primark and get my hair done, I'm not sitting shivering in the cold to see my parents.

Exactly!

sweetheartyparty · 05/04/2021 16:56

It's no good being vaccinated if we carry on as if we haven't. The point of getting vaccinated is so we can get back to normal and for one, I can't wait

choppet · 05/04/2021 16:58

@Sugarbelle

this sort of shit really needs to stop.

I get that the rules were in place for a reason but I have seen the other end of the scope because of the level of fear the government/media/the internet instilled in some people over this virus and frankly, its despicable. My uncle was crying 2 days ago when my dad asked him to meet up in the park with my younger sisters and his 3 sons. full on crying because he couldnt do it as he is so scared his 3 boys are going to be the rare cases of children who are going to get really really sick from it. we listened to him and gently tried pointing out the risks that we have contended with all our lives from so many other things but he couldnt be reasoned with. those 3 boys have barely left the house in over a year and are not in school.

my point being, I would rather see people getting back to normal then see people like my uncle. it's not surprising is it with it constantly in your face and then some people loving jumping on the rule breaker chastising band wagon.

just give it a fucking rest will you.

Agree 1000% I was to go for a walk with a friend about 6 weeks ago. Putting on my trainers and get a text that when her 8 year old heard he had a meltdown thinking she will catch covid and bring it home. Is no one concerned about this level of anxiety in an 8 year old?? Far more worrying than the potential miniscule risk of Covid for children. It was my daughters bday last week. We had 3 school friends for a garden party. It was an also absolute tonic to see how much they enjoyed themselves.

Alsohuman · 05/04/2021 17:03

@sleepwouldbenice

Get yourself educated. Can still pass it on. Although at lower risk For the last time for the really really stubborn. We haven't got sufficient proportion of the population fully vaccinated yet

Over half the adult population is vaccinated, ffs. Everyone over 50, ie most likely to be hospitalised or die, will be done in less than a fortnight. Talk about bloody mission creep, the NHS is in no danger of being overwhelmed now, there’s absolutely no reason for these crazy restrictions.

StealthPolarBear · 05/04/2021 17:04

I totally agree but was answering in theory about how two vaccinated adults meeting could impact on schools