To think it is inevitable we will see more lockdowns?

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Vaccines will definitely reduce hospital admissions and deaths. But when do you think we will reach a point where we never go back to a lockdown?

@IcedPurple

I’m learning Korean and hope to start taking the TOPIK exams in the Autumn.

That's great -since last year I've often felt many on MN would be very much at home in North Korea.

It must be utterly draining to be the relatives of some people on here. The negativity would drive me nuts.

What on earth do you mean @dividedwefall ?

I don't think there will be closures of places, but can see some point where face coverings and things such as restrictions on numbers being re-introduced next winter.

@Heathermary1995

"We've dealt with far more virulent illnesses than Covid in the past and returned to normal"

yes maybe, but now we live in an era of hysterical social media driven people with no grasp on life being finite thinking locking away indefinitely will save uncle fester approaching 90 despite statistically cancer and heart disease still posing a bigger thread @IcedPurple

"COVID-19 will be 'with us for the next 10 years', warns vaccine chiefGeorge Martin
George Martin
22 December 2020·2-min read
Watch: BioNTech chief confident vaccine will work against new strain

COVID-19 could still be causing outbreaks in 10 years time, the creator of the world’s first approved vaccine has said.

Ugur Sahin, chief executive of Germany's BioNTech, partnered with US drug company Pfizer and took less than a year to get a vaccine approved.

Mmm, the man who was in charge of one of the vaccinations said it will be around for 10 years. Do you not think he might have another motive for saying that? Ie. He stands to make a hell of a lot of money out of boosters of the vaccinations. I would rather listen to an expert who is impartial.

Chris Whitty himself said no more lockdowns so some of you really need to stop scaremongering.

@LemonSherbetFancies

Chris Whitty himself said no more lockdowns so some of you really need to stop scaremongering.

The last briefing I saw he said it would be up to politicians to decide.

The last briefing I saw he said it would be up to politicians to decide

Google it, he said he cannot see a system of lock downs ever returning to the Uk and that this would be treated like seasonal flu, even though it was a very different virus.

He said it would take a 'year or two' to get to that point though (according to the googling I just did)

So that isn't no more ever, it is no more eventually.

While he said he cannot see a system of local lockdowns returning, the emergence of a variant which was able to have "unconstrained growth" could mean an "alarm cord" must be pulled.

He said: "The only area where I think we technically are going to have to pull the alarm cord is if a variant of concern comes in that we can see is now back to a situation it could manage unconstrained growth because the immunological response to it is just not there."

They ruled out local lockdowns ages ago anyway as they didn't work.

I'm tired of doom-monger Chris Whitty. Look at Israel FGS! They're where we'll be in another couple of months and they are more or less living normally www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/02/really-good-place-israel-nearing-covid-endgame

I don't believe that we'll have another wave, as long as we don't just open the borders and allow a free for all that will allow other variants in. As long as we are cautious, test, test, test, and vaccinate absolutely everyone we can as quickly as we can (which we're doing), there IS a pretty swift way out of this. Yes, I'm an optimist, even after the past shit year, but the combination of vaccination, testing and caution = return to real life.

This is going to be a disaster to all the lockdown lovers who want to play Misery Sweepstakes for lives.

As for the third wave www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9429943/Britain-WONT-suffer-devastating-wave-Covid-gripping-Europe-public-health-expert-says.html

That's encouraging, zafferana. I agree that the vaccination will make a tremendous difference, not so sure about the warm weather because we had plenty of that last year. However, I am cautiously optimistic.

Whitty:

Asked by Sir Simon Wessely, professor of psychological medicine at the Institute of Psychiatry, King’s College London, if lockdowns could be reimposed if Covid cases rose, Britain’s top medic replied: “No, I don’t think so.”
However, he added: “Society will not tolerate more than a certain number of people being ill, even if they know it’s going to go away come the spring, and the area where we’re going to have to pull the alarm cord is if a variant of concern comes in that we can see is now back to a situation of unconstrained growth because the immunological response to it is just not there.”

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/14527313/covid-like-flu-lockdowns-unlikely-chris-whitty/amp/

He also said he's "absolutely certain" that one will.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/14524483/chris-whitty-uk-covid-spikes-years-travel-bans-hotspots/amp/

The Daily Mail and The Sun both reported Whitty's words more accurately than The Telegraph.

Chris Whitty says Britain will treat Covid 'like the flu' in future but warns we will be vulnerable to disease for another TWO YEARS and says a vaccine - resistant variant WILL emerge

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9427169/amp/Chris-Whitty-warns-Britain-vulnerable-Covid-two-years.html

[quote PrincessNutNuts]Whitty:

Asked by Sir Simon Wessely, professor of psychological medicine at the Institute of Psychiatry, King’s College London, if lockdowns could be reimposed if Covid cases rose, Britain’s top medic replied: “No, I don’t think so.”
However, he added: “Society will not tolerate more than a certain number of people being ill, even if they know it’s going to go away come the spring, and the area where we’re going to have to pull the alarm cord is if a variant of concern comes in that we can see is now back to a situation of unconstrained growth because the immunological response to it is just not there.”

[[https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/14527313/covid-like-flu-lockdowns-unlikely-chris-whitty/amp]]/

He also said he's "absolutely certain" that one will.

[[https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/14524483/chris-whitty-uk-covid-spikes-years-travel-bans-hotspots/amp]]/

The Daily Mail and The Sun both reported Whitty's words more accurately than The Telegraph.

Chris Whitty says Britain will treat Covid 'like the flu' in future but warns we will be vulnerable to disease for another TWO YEARS and says a vaccine - resistant variant WILL emerge

[[https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9427169/amp/Chris-Whitty-warns-Britain-vulnerable-Covid-two-years.html]][/quote]
He needs to stop with the scaremongering.