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To think it is inevitable we will see more lockdowns?

265 replies

NEVERQUIT3331 · 28/03/2021 18:05

inews.co.uk/news/politics/fourth-wave-of-covid-19-is-inevitable-because-vaccines-cant-prevent-all-deaths-chris-whitty-says-905347

Vaccines will definitely reduce hospital admissions and deaths. But when do you think we will reach a point where we never go back to a lockdown?

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Remmy123 · 29/03/2021 06:48

If everyone is vaccinated why need to lockdown?

whatswithtodaytoday · 29/03/2021 06:58

@Kokeshi123 Sweden is very different to the UK (and the US, etc). Although no, they didn't have an strict restrictions, the people on the whole did isolate themselves and reduce social contacts massively. Life did not carry on as normal. It's a very different culture, they're not physically affectionate as a population and there are far, far fewer people in a larger space. A lot of people live very rurally.

Source: one of my best mates lives in Stockholm.

jessstan2 · 29/03/2021 07:04

@Remmy123

If everyone is vaccinated why need to lockdown?
It's going to take a while for everyone to be vaccinated.
Bluntness100 · 29/03/2021 07:22

It's going to take a while for everyone to be vaccinated

Not really. 57 percent of adults already are. Plus there’s a chance we have already reached herd immunity.

I do wonder if the people saying lockdown will be back actually personally really want it.

It’s very clear that the vaccine program is working, so it’s highly unlikely another lockdown due to Covid will happen. This really is very likely the last. And the last pandemic we will see in our lifetimes.

However it’d also very clear some people lived their best lives due to it, not working, or no commute or school run, or not being forced to see other people, not feeling the odd one out because they don’t socialise, getting the full attention of their partner, so maybe want it to happen again, others clearly have mental health problems so will see only negatives.

I don’t believe any one looking at the stats and the results of the vaccine program as well as the hospitalisations (remember lock down is only to protect the nhs from breaching, not to stop Covid) would think another lock down is likely.

carolinesbaby · 29/03/2021 08:01

As long as you still get your furlough pay, or you didn't lose your job and are working from home, or you work in the public sector and you are still on full pay for doing a much reduced workload than usual...

Of course this is a generalisation, many such as nurses are working very hard, but there are many, particularly in the civil service and local authorities twiddling their thumbs on full pay, but why wouldn't you be happy about that?

This is complete bollocks and very offensive.

Bluntness100 · 29/03/2021 08:23

@Reachersloveinterest

As long as you still get your furlough pay, or you didn't lose your job and are working from home, or you work in the public sector and you are still on full pay for doing a much reduced workload than usual...

Of course this is a generalisation, many such as nurses are working very hard, but there are many, particularly in the civil service and local authorities twiddling their thumbs on full pay, but why wouldn't you be happy about that?

This is complete bollocks and very offensive.

Actually there are many people twiddling their thumbs on full pay and loving it. There’s been a shit ton of them posting about it on here.
pawsbaws · 29/03/2021 09:31

@kittensarecute

There must never ever be another lockdown - covid or no covid.
Totally agree.
Roonerspismed · 29/03/2021 09:47

I will not comply

They have had a year of my life. No more

Cowmilk · 29/03/2021 09:53

The best way to prevent another lockdown is to give NHS more money. Fund them well, yes it will take time to train new staff. But we can't afford going into numerous lockdowns. The whole reason we keep on going into lockdown is to help NHS cope. It needs money not claps. It is as simple as that.

toolatetooearly · 29/03/2021 09:55

I'm 100% certain this is the last one.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 29/03/2021 10:01

Even better funded the NHS wouldn’t have coped no health service would have. Nowhere in the world would. That’s why everywhere has either gone for a very low covid strategy or rolling lockdowns when cases rise enough to risk healthcare services.

PepeSilviaDoesNotExist · 29/03/2021 10:02

After this lockdown it’s just gonna be crack on. They won’t do it again they can’t afford it

Topseyt · 29/03/2021 10:12

I already missed saying a proper goodbye to my Dad as he died in hospital (not Covid related), so if lockdowns return or continue I will ignore any rules which say I can't see family.

All of the family I would be seeing or visiting are vulnerable people anyway, who do need checking on and supporting. So I guess I am not going too much against the rules anyway.

ClarkeGriffin · 29/03/2021 10:46

Actually there are many people twiddling their thumbs on full pay and loving it. There’s been a shit ton of them posting about it on here.

There's always been people in the public sector doing that though, that's not new. They are mainly called politicians. But you do get others in the public sector who sit around doing nothing for full pay. Dunno how they cope, I'd be bored out of my kind after one day. They must be dull people.

MrsHastingslikethebattle · 29/03/2021 10:50

@Ohnomoreno

Lockdowns will end when we stop lapping them up. Politicians are delivering the illusion of safety as requested and will continue to take away rights indefinitely if people keep prioritising their perception of safety.
I agree.

The problem we have is peoples perceptions of safety come from the media. When they are publishing sensationalist headlines, half truths etc, the public are going to be scared into wanting lockdowns.

sleepwouldbenice · 29/03/2021 11:01

@Cowmilk

The best way to prevent another lockdown is to give NHS more money. Fund them well, yes it will take time to train new staff. But we can't afford going into numerous lockdowns. The whole reason we keep on going into lockdown is to help NHS cope. It needs money not claps. It is as simple as that.
This might help going forwards as there should be less hospitalizations But looking back and assuming this would have prevented lockdowns shows a shocking level of ignorance
Dolciedolly · 29/03/2021 11:28

@kellehi

More than half of mumsnet would be happy to be locked down forever...

As long as you still get your furlough pay, or you didn't lose your job and are working from home, or you work in the public sector and you are still on full pay for doing a much reduced workload than usual...

Of course this is a generalisation, many such as nurses are working very hard, but there are many, particularly in the civil service and local authorities twiddling their thumbs on full pay, but why wouldn't you be happy about that?

You can still get your shopping in with a once a week supermarket trip whilst all the staff there are slaving away wearing masks for a full eight hour shift, and you get to stay home and stay with the family, and get paid for it.

When the government ends the furlough payments, and everyone either has a choice of going back to work or having to get universal credit because their employer isn't able to keep paying them with taxpayer money anymore, that is when everyone here will stop supporting the lockdowns, if there is one.

But whilst the government is still printing the money, and SAGE's behavioural scientists are still turning the 'increase the sense of personal threat' screw, everyone will be lapping it up, and periodically come on here to say 'It's just another few months and then we'll be back to normal...

You speak so much sense I wfh and get paid but easy for me to say yer stay in lockdown but what about my hairdresser , a mobile hairdresser having to sell her car to feed her children, 2 men killed them selves as their business lost so much money , delayed cancer , and the monumental amount of mental health to come our way

We need to go back to normal covid or no covid !

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pommedeterre · 29/03/2021 11:32

I think lockdown is a very blunt tool and should not be used again, I think having it still around a year from the start is crap enough. We have to come up with different ways of dealing with covid (its never going away!) going forward without smacking people into lockdown which is, at best, inhumane.

I supported it last year, the only way in the face of a new unknown disease that was killing people but enough is enough now.

sleepwouldbenice · 29/03/2021 12:21

Enough is enough......yet no proven credible alternative forthcoming.....

Confuzzlediddled · 29/03/2021 13:30

So many conspiracy theorists here, and Mumsnet used to be in the main populated by rational people!

There were absolutely not 64000 flu deaths in 2019.
A Tory government do not want a failing economy.
Disabled and vulnerable people are not just expendible, anyone could have an underlying vulnerability and not know until it's too late.

FoxyTheFox · 29/03/2021 14:00

Until China release the 5th disease

China didn't release this one, no one released it, it came from animals.

Hairwizard · 29/03/2021 14:27

They can go fuck themselves. Along with anyone else fucking stupid enough to still agree with them.
Covid or no life must crack on. Couldnt believe they held a minutes silence last week for the dead... doesnt happen for any other dead like cancer etc.
Im not complying as it is havent been for months and guess what, the sky hasnt fell.

MercyBooth · 29/03/2021 14:56

@jessstan2 Vallance said outside transmission was very minimal. Why are you only choosing to believe the bits that suit?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 29/03/2021 14:58

They can go fuck themselves. Along with anyone else fucking stupid enough to still agree with them.
Covid or no life must crack on. Couldnt believe they held a minutes silence last week for the dead... doesnt happen for any other dead like cancer etc.
Im not complying as it is havent been for months and guess what, the sky hasnt fell

Have you seen what’s happening in Brazil?