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so scared of a 3rd wave

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Thedarksideofthemoon30 · 22/03/2021 15:40

"Boris Johnson has warned the effects of a third wave of coronavirus will "wash up on our shores" from Europe.
The PM said the UK should be "under no illusion" we will "feel effects" of growing cases on the continent."

anyone else worried that the planned out of lockdown now won't happen?

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MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 08:14

Agreed, things may not happen as planned so they need to blame the EU.

Really don’t get this line of thought

Are you saying Europe’s higher cases can’t impact us?

Also it’s likely only travel that’s impacted

Blaming people sounds so juvenile it’s another wave in EU it’s not made up

Delatron · 23/03/2021 08:18

You could say Europe are now ‘feeling the effects’ of our third wave with our Kent variant. It has ‘washed up on their shores’

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 08:20

Don’t worry Merkel is talking about British variant for reason for harsher lockdown

RedcurrantPuff · 23/03/2021 08:21

Chris Whitty said recently that all the modelling showed a minimum of another 30,000 deaths.

He also didn’t say we need to stay locked up to prevent then happening..

Time to acknowledge their we need to live with a number of deaths as we do for other illnesses and get on with it.

Laytwir024 · 23/03/2021 08:55

@RedcurrantPuff

Chris Whitty said recently that all the modelling showed a minimum of another 30,000 deaths.

He also didn’t say we need to stay locked up to prevent then happening..

Time to acknowledge their we need to live with a number of deaths as we do for other illnesses and get on with it.

If and when it gets to the point that it's like other illnesses.

Ask anyone who's had cancer treatment postponed because there are too many covid cases in their hospital. Unless you literally get people to agree that if they have covid they refuse treatment and die at home, they will need to be treated.

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 14:43

@FourTeaFallOut

In what way is the roadmap faltering at the second hurdle? Is it case numbers remaining lower w-o-w this week compared to last week, the reduced hospital admissions by 20% or the number of deaths falling 40%?
I think they'll get away with the first step on April 12th because the Easter school holidays will act as a circuit breaker to damp down one of the main drivers of infections.

However, after that, if infections among school age children spread to their unvaccinated parents, and from there on to colleagues and family members then it could all kick off again.

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 14:56

@Delatron

You could say Europe are now ‘feeling the effects’ of our third wave with our Kent variant. It has ‘washed up on their shores’
Exactly that. I bet they're just thrilled about it.

B117 is already dominant here, so any surge will be a consequence of opening up - or another variant jockeying for dominance.

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 15:00

@RedcurrantPuff

Chris Whitty said recently that all the modelling showed a minimum of another 30,000 deaths.

He also didn’t say we need to stay locked up to prevent then happening..

Time to acknowledge their we need to live with a number of deaths as we do for other illnesses and get on with it.

"Living with it" at this point would involve a lot more dying.

I don't think Chris Whitty mentioned lockdown at all, and neither did I, but what did our government do the last three times they let the virus get out of hand?

utilisateur · 23/03/2021 15:06

At the weekend, it was in the Guardian that up to 10% of cases at that time were the South African variant.

Same article quoted a study reporting that the AZ vaccine is not effective against this variant.

In the UK, we don't have 10% of cases being the South African variant.

So unless we stop inbound travellers from Europe or make them quarantine (unless obviously going to be confined in their lorry cabs etc), then we will import a lot of these SA cases have a mass outbreak of our own...

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 15:09

@FourTeaFallOut

In what way is the roadmap faltering at the second hurdle? Is it case numbers remaining lower w-o-w this week compared to last week, the reduced hospital admissions by 20% or the number of deaths falling 40%?
Lockdown is doing most of that.

The current numbers look very similar to those when we were coming out of Lockdown 1.

They also look quite similar to late September 2020 when Whitty and Vallance showed us their graph of doom as we moved towards Lockdown 2.

We're still finding almost 40,000 new cases every week, and as we begin to open up we'll begin to see what effect the vaccines are having. Or not. (Yet)

MiaMarshmallows · 23/03/2021 17:12

All these negative comments!
Am I the only one who thinks we will be ok by the end of the year at the latest?
As I said before, another wave would not have the same kind of negative impact due to the fact most will have had the vaccinations by then. I really do think things will plan out better then we realise.

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 17:14

@MiaMarshmallows

All these negative comments! Am I the only one who thinks we will be ok by the end of the year at the latest? As I said before, another wave would not have the same kind of negative impact due to the fact most will have had the vaccinations by then. I really do think things will plan out better then we realise.
It's not negativity. It's experience. Smile
tobee · 23/03/2021 17:15

Look at the figures from Israel.

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 17:15

@MiaMarshmallows

All these negative comments! Am I the only one who thinks we will be ok by the end of the year at the latest? As I said before, another wave would not have the same kind of negative impact due to the fact most will have had the vaccinations by then. I really do think things will plan out better then we realise.
Mia I feel it will be really different by summer

Basically after all adults that can are vaccinated

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 17:16

This looks good too

so scared of a 3rd wave
tobee · 23/03/2021 17:16

Love how all the jolly doom mongers love to punctuate their posts with Smile and Grin

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 17:17

@tobee

Look at the figures from Israel.
I hope we will start to emulate those once we have given the most vulnerable in the first 4 JCVI groups their second jabs, by June hopefully.

If not once the rest of the JCVI 9 get their second jabs by August.

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 17:18

It's not negativity. It's experience. smile

But how have you experienced the stage of the pandemic where U.K. adults are vaccinated?

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 17:19

Princess don’t you think that hospitalisation chart is encouraging?

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 17:22

When in summer are you expecting vaccinations to be finished @MarshaBradyo?

PrincessNutNuts · 23/03/2021 17:23

@MarshaBradyo

Princess don’t you think that hospitalisation chart is encouraging?
In what way?
Jellybaby4 · 23/03/2021 17:23

Not negative, realistic!
We have a long way to go.

tobee · 23/03/2021 17:23

@MarshaBradyo

Princess don’t you think that hospitalisation chart is encouraging?
Don't ask tricky questions Marsha
MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 17:24

Can you not answer a question without a question Hmm

It’s not that hard!

tobee · 23/03/2021 17:24

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