[quote WanderingFruitWonderer]@UmbilicusProfundus I'm terrified of saying too much, in case I get pounced on.
I don't know if my opinion (which is in a constant state of flux anyway) is sensible or not. Though, I guess to me, questioning, of everything, is always sensible.
I haven't researched the vaccines much, but am in the throes of doing so. Obviously tricky, as no long-term data. I carefully researched most effective facemasks, and other things Covid related.
I think to me, very few things in life are black & white. I feel uncomfortable about the fact that any descent is not tolerated. That's always a bad sign. I was like that a few weeks ago! In my case it was because I was scared and defensive. I can't speak for others.
There do seem to be many people suffering significant side effects. Is it worth it for people very low risk? Also people whose lifestyles don't involve much indoor interaction with others?
There's still no clear peer-reviewed research on reduction of transmission. Which is huge, as my sole reason for having the vaccine would be to protect others.
Also, some people (especially vegans) feel very distressed by the animal testing, and use of chimpanzees in the viral vector vaccines. Consciousness objection must ALWAYS be allowed, even welcomed, in a decent society. But this is presented as though taking up the vaccine is the only moral option. Which is untrue and unfair, and very concerning.
I'm actually really scared of reactions to this post. Really scared to voice anything other than bold enthusiasm for the vaccines. Surely that in itself is a problem? We need a climate of acceptance of different opinions on this issue. Anything less is a worrying state of affairs for any society... 
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You may get a bit pounced on. I will because I would want to address your concerns. I think there are sime here who just shout - about anything - but others spend a lot of time trying to address all the dissenting voices, to try and provide relevant information, dispel the misinformation.
It really isn't always a bad sign, it could mean that the dissenting voices are badly informed, lying, have an agenda, all sorts of other reasons. It is never wrong to challenge falsehood, however it starts.
There's still no clear peer-reviewed research on reduction of transmission. Which is huge, as my sole reason for having the vaccine would be to protect others. Whilst that is noice and selfless of you, you are entitled to take it to protect yourself. Reduction in transmission is REALLY hard to measure once a programme to avoud transmission has started. What are you measuring? People avoiding close contact? The effect of masks? We can't come out of lockdown inorder to see what effect the vaccine is having on transmission!
*Also, some people (especially vegans) feel very distressed by the animal testing, and use of chimpanzees in the viral vector vaccines. Consciousness objection must ALWAYS be allowed, even welcomed, in a decent society. But this is presented as though taking up the vaccine is the only moral option. Which is untrue and unfair, and very concerning. OK! But as chimpanzees tend to get the same viruses huimans do (the reason they are used n medical research in the frst pace) research will continue, to save the chimpanzee, mostly from viruses brought to them from tourists. There is a lot to be said for continuing some mutually beneficial reearch!
But this is presented as though taking up the vaccine is the only moral option. Which is untrue and unfair, and very concerning. What other moral option is there to take? Living forever in a bubble?
I'm actually really scared of reactions to this post. WHy? It's words. Just stuff people type!
Really scared to voice anything other than bold enthusiasm for the vaccines. Surely that in itself is a problem? We need a climate of acceptance of different opinions on this issue. Anything less is a worrying state of affairs for any society. Well, yes, if the other voices are saying something sane and sensible. But I can't meekly accept a different opinion that could be harmful, to the speaker, to me, to other strangers. I have a moral imperative to speak up to stop harm being done, don't I?
I am sorry of any of that feels aggressive or shutting you down. But this is the point of fora such as this! Discussion.
I try to remain polite!