Side Effects Returned After 2 Weeks Post Astrazeneca

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I had my first Astrazeneca 16 days ago and that night and for almost a week I felt nauseated, pain left side above hip, headache, fluish.
These faded away and I was left with a very swollen arm.
2 days ago we noticed my arm was still in a big lump but bruising and tracking red around the outside.
Yesterday I awoke with a headache and the back pain had returned.
Today my guts are off again and I feel sick, abdominal pains and feel generally chappy just as I did 2 weeks ago.
There is absolutely no way I've caught anything as we've been incredibly strict and clean everything we receive and we haven't been in contact with anyone at all.
I'm just curious if anyone else had noticed anything similar.

@Nerdygirl @Dustyboots I completely agree with you both, but sadly you’ll get nowhere on Mumsnet with your concerns.

@donewithitalltodayandxmas

When you have the jab are you supposed to get tested for covid if you have any symptoms after ? As in if you have a temp it could be the vaccine or maybe a bug or maybe covid , just wondered if any guidance ? Or would covid show up because of vaccine ? Does anyone know

The leaflet says chills are normal in the first 1-2 days, but get a test if you get a high fever, or get other symptoms, or it continues more than 3-4 days.

Hi all, i hope you don't mind me posting. I had AZ vaccination last night, have felt terrible most of the day. If the vaccination had this affect I dread to think how the virus would.kmoact me. lm experiencing flu like symptoms and headache for past few hours. Im also experiencing a burning in my quad muscles. Has anyone else has this burning??

OP - you might be interested in this article about vaccine side effects, also it has a lot of comments: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56375307.

There's still no clear peer-reviewed research on reduction of transmission.

Well here's one
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00448-7/fulltext

There's numerous others in pre-print - all showing the same thing.

It has been shown that the vaccine reduces deaths significantly. There is a huge amount of evidence that getting covid for real is considerably more dangerous than getting vaccine side effects. I don’t know if this is a fair assumption or not, but I’ve always assumed there is likely to be some correlation between people who would have had long term effects from covid and people who have long term effects from the vaccine. Regardless, it has been adequately shown by now that just letting people risk catching covid results in inadequate healthcare for all, as hospitals and GPs rapidly become overwhelmed by covid patients. I don’t want to die of cancer or something for which there is no vaccine because the NHS is clogged up with unvaccinated covid patients. I therefore find people getting cold feet slightly aggravating, as they are acting like they are saving themselves from something bad, when they are merely contemplating risking something worse.

@Walkaround

It has been shown that the vaccine reduces deaths significantly. There is a huge amount of evidence that getting covid for real is considerably more dangerous than getting vaccine side effects. I don’t know if this is a fair assumption or not, but I’ve always assumed there is likely to be some correlation between people who would have had long term effects from covid and people who have long term effects from the vaccine. Regardless, it has been adequately shown by now that just letting people risk catching covid results in inadequate healthcare for all, as hospitals and GPs rapidly become overwhelmed by covid patients. I don’t want to die of cancer or something for which there is no vaccine because the NHS is clogged up with unvaccinated covid patients. I therefore find people getting cold feet slightly aggravating, as they are acting like they are saving themselves from something bad, when they are merely contemplating risking something worse.

You are forgetting the vast majority of people (99% plus) would not be in a hospital with COVID. And people are forgetting that ALL PANDEMICS END NATURALLY.

All of them.

So fine, have a vaccine. The more the merrier. But don't act like there will be carnage for evermore without it. If anything, lockdown and vaccines that don't prevent transmission are significantly more harmful longer term than 'letting it rip' quickly. That ship has sadly sailed though. And no fewer deaths as a result!

I don't personally think rushing out vaccines for new pandemic diseases with lowish death rates that could end relatively quickly (within 2 years) is very sensible.

@dividedwefall - if not bothered by pandemics, wtf is your problem with vaccines?! It’s not as if they cause more harm than the illness itself?!

And yes, fewer deaths as a result, ffs.

[quote Walkaround]@dividedwefall - if not bothered by pandemics, wtf is your problem with vaccines?! It’s not as if they cause more harm than the illness itself?![/quote]
I don't have a problem with vaccines silly! I think they are amazing. This is a totally different situation though for various reasons. The newness of the technology, the problems with previous incarnations of them, the fact it is being rushed out under emergency license and most importantly, the relentless pressure to have it from government, health 'experts', scientists, famous people and posters on Mumsnet.

If they developed it and offered it to those who want it, I wouldn't have a problem. It has become massively politicised though. People are being made to feel like pariahs for not wanting it, are being threatened with permanent loss of liberty, are being accused of not caring about society or their own older relatives, are being called stupid, uneducated and unable to think critically.

And when horrible side effects come to light, posters on forums like this are trying to get the conversation shut down. Reporting any posts where people say they don't want it for whatever reason, or where people try to discuss their side effects for reassurance.

So vaccines are not the problem. This vaccine for this pandemic under these circumstances is an issue for me.

I’m not putting pressure on anyone, just questioning the logic of being more scared of the vaccine than the disease itself.

Are you implying that covid has had a low death rate?
Wow!!!!!!

That’s how I feel divided. If people want a vaccine that’s brilliant for them.

I have probably had covid and if I haven’t will probably get it mildly and will likely have better and longer lasting immunity as a result.

Now I read we are testing the Moderna vaccine and I really can’t fathom why any parent would think it’s sensible to vaccinate a young child for a disease that won’t affect them with a vaccine, the longer term effect of we simply don’t know

@Llh1979

Are you implying that covid has had a low death rate? Wow!!!!!!

Extremely high survival rate so yes I'm sure that is what she is saying

I'm speechless!!!
Low death rate? try telling that to the families of people that have lost loved 1s to this virus ornthe staff in the hospitals that have held the hands of the dying

@Roonerspismed - why so anxious about long term effects of a vaccine if you are so happy to conclude there are no long term effects of the virus itself?! That’s just bizarre thinking, imvho. What do you think the vaccine can do that the virus itself would never do?

@Llh1979

I'm speechless!!! Low death rate? try telling that to the families of people that have lost loved 1s to this virus ornthe staff in the hospitals that have held the hands of the dying

Sorry but what you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Families grief and death rates are two completely different things.

@Roonerspismed

That’s how I feel divided. If people want a vaccine that’s brilliant for them.

I have probably had covid and if I haven’t will probably get it mildly and will likely have better and longer lasting immunity as a result.

Now I read we are testing the Moderna vaccine and I really can’t fathom why any parent would think it’s sensible to vaccinate a young child for a disease that won’t affect them with a vaccine, the longer term effect of we simply don’t know

Why on earth do people keep worrying about the long-term implications of the vaccine and not of the disease? Any possible long-term effects of the vaccine would be immunological. Long-term effects of the disease are immunological and as a result of organ damage and other effects covid is having on the body. So the immunological effects would happen whether you had the disease or the vaccine. If you have the vaccine you avoid the effects on the organs you can get from covid. There are children who have been shown to be affected by the disease (even if they had it midly) so I don't think it is as black and white as you are making out. Children are also massive vectors of the disease so once the trials have shown it is safe for them to have it it will help protect the more vulnerable in the population.

It's also not necessarily true that your immunity will be better and longer lasting from having covid than the vaccine. Many people have higher antibody levels after two doses of vaccine than natural covid infection.

And people are forgetting that ALL PANDEMICS END NATURALLY

All of them

Yes, well I mean the bubonic plague took a couple of centuries to conclude, but yes.

@Roonerspismed

That’s how I feel divided. If people want a vaccine that’s brilliant for them.

I have probably had covid and if I haven’t will probably get it mildly and will likely have better and longer lasting immunity as a result.

Now I read we are testing the Moderna vaccine and I really can’t fathom why any parent would think it’s sensible to vaccinate a young child for a disease that won’t affect them with a vaccine, the longer term effect of we simply don’t know

I really can’t fathom why any parent would think it’s sensible to vaccinate a young child for a disease that won’t affect them You may feel differently if you had a child who hadn't been able to go to school all year because they are shielding.

God this place is doing my fucking head in.

I'm 50 and I've had the AZ vaccine. As with all vaccines I've had I reacted badly and had a terrible night, eventually throwing up.

But I would do it again, again and again. I'm science trained and know that the vaccine can cause these issues. But how do I know? Well, they are published and a copy is given to you before you're jabbed. You can read them here:-

www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2021/01/Information_for_UK_recipients_COVID-19_Vaccine_AstraZeneca.pdf

I was in the 1 in 10 that ends up throwing up.

I got this vaccine for myself, to reduce the chances of me getting killed by the virus. I got it for my wife, to keep her safer. I got it for my kids, so they don't get long covid from me. I got it for my neighbour, my postman, the publican, the waitress, the supermarket worker etc etc.

It called being responsible and caring for others, not just yourself.

If we don't vaccinate how else are we ALL going to get out of this situation? How else will people be able to hug their elderly parents without risking killing them?

If you don't get a vaccine then in my book you're probably being selfish.

@Roonerspismed

That’s how I feel divided. If people want a vaccine that’s brilliant for them.

I have probably had covid and if I haven’t will probably get it mildly and will likely have better and longer lasting immunity as a result.

Now I read we are testing the Moderna vaccine and I really can’t fathom why any parent would think it’s sensible to vaccinate a young child for a disease that won’t affect them with a vaccine, the longer term effect of we simply don’t know

But it's not just about you. If it were I'd say rock on, do as you like. But it's about all the others you'll infect.

Parents get the children vaccinated to stop them from getting ill, possible long covid AND to protect people their child might infect who won't get a good outcome.

Unfortunately, the people who think and act like you are likely spreading death. Sorry, but the truth sometimes hurts.

Well if the vaccine works and you have had it, what’s it to you if I choose not to have it?

I barely know any kids who have exhibited symptoms of covid let alone long covid. Utter madness to vaccinate children annually for a disease that doesn’t affect them

There is a reason why many dog owners including me no longer vaccinate our dogs annually after the first few years - increasing autoimmunity, cancers and allergies in dogs and no one knows why. It’s great we can vaccinate our kids for many childhood diseases but let’s pause before this one shall we?

To be honest alt I hope to get covid naturally and be done with it with natural infection like conferring longer lasting protection and against more variants.

If we let our kids do same whilst they are young we can probably start to not vaccinate in a decade for covid. It’s probably how the other coronavirus arrived

It’s probably how the other coronavirus arrived
Hahahahaha.
I do sometimes wonder how often these anti-vax people are intentionally joking.