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Looks like the plans are now leaked.

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pinkhappy · 21/02/2021 22:28

The Times seems to have leaked the plans now. I for one will be very happy if children's outdoor sport starts on March 8.

March 8:
Schools
Kids outdoor sport
Golf + Tennis

Early April:
🛍Non-essential retail
Outdoor pubs + restaurants

Mid April:
Gyms

May:
Cinemas + Theatre
Indoor pubs + restaurants

August:
Foreign holidays
Clubs

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herecomesthsun · 22/02/2021 14:59

@MH1111

Teaching unions are a disgrace to their profession demanding a phased return and opposing all children back on the 8th. Contemptible and disgusting, i hope teachers revolt in their droves and put children first
Why not just vaccinate the teachers (and parents) - it would be a lot safer then
herecomesthsun · 22/02/2021 15:01

[quote Unmellowbirds]@withlotsoflove
In my entirely unqualified rules, I presume under the rules as they appear to be anticipated that it wouldn't be possible until indoor hairdressing is permitted as outdoor meet ups are still supposed to be socially distanced.

Unless your hairdresser has arms like Mr Tickle or a 2m long brush.[/quote]
[Briefly has vision of outdoor hairdressing. This would be something truly to look forward to - until it rained]

Talisin · 22/02/2021 15:07

@TooTiredToCoo

When will libraries open? Last time they reopened the same time as the gyms. My local libraries were shut March-September/October.
Libraries have been allowed to be open for click and collect and essential IT use all through the last two lockdowns. It’s up to the individual library authorities whether they are or not so you’d need to ask your local authority when they’re planning to reopen.
studychick81 · 22/02/2021 15:08

@Mythymist

I don't understand the view point that we shouldn't open up because of the number of cases.

Because of the potential for mutations.

So we stay in lockdown for months, years just incase a new mutation arrives? Just in case. Viruses mutate, that's what they do, we can change vaccinations to suit this. That's a very big what if at the expense of children's education, mental Heath and jobs? Sorry but I don't want to do that. We need to start living with this virus, we will not get down to 0 cases.
Oblomov21 · 22/02/2021 15:11

I agree. We can't stay in lockdown forever, hoping to get the cases down to a small amount. And variants are the norm. We just need to get on with it now.

pennylane83 · 22/02/2021 15:23

because of the potential for mutations

Given that half the worlds population won't have been anywhere near a vaccine until at least 2023 (and I can't really see people forgoing a foreign holiday until then) then you will never be free of mutations. The likelihood is that those most at risk will need annual vaccine boosters against the strain doing the rounds that year. So that being the case, when exactly would you prefer for schools, businesses, life in general to recommence?

TurquoiseDragon · 22/02/2021 15:35

@Mythymist

I don't understand the view point that we shouldn't open up because of the number of cases.

Because of the potential for mutations.

We don't lock down for flu, which is also a serial killer.

We have annual vaccines that are designed to protect against the strains that scientist think will be the most dangerous in any given year. The vaccine strains change every year.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 22/02/2021 15:43

Those vulnerable people are being vaccinated right now.

And that's great. But it takes time to get through them all, and more time for immunity to develop.

The things we should be watching are the numbers of hospital admissions and deaths. As long as those decrease we’re good. It’s completely unrealistic to expect infections to go down to zero.

I don't expect infections to go down to zero. I just want infections to stay low enough to keep hospital admissions and deaths low, in combination with the vaccine. And no doubt so does the government. So we all hope that hospital admissions and deaths will keep decreasing after some restrictions are lifted but it is still a gamble and the more and earlier they lift, the bigger the gamble. And there is also a time-lag between infection and hospital admission and death, so it's not enough to know that hospital admissions and deaths are going down right now. If government are over-optimistic about the effects of vaccination or the speed of the vaccination programme, or if they underestimate the speed of spread when restrictions are lifted - and how reliable have they been so far? - then there is still room for both those numbers to go up again.

VinylDetective · 22/02/2021 15:53

Hairdressers 12 April according to the BBC site. 🙏🎉

Teardrop2021 · 22/02/2021 15:56

Swimming pools 12th April although gyms.

Parker231 · 22/02/2021 16:04

Step One: 8 March and 29 March
8 March

• All schools and colleges in England will reopen, while all childcare can resume
• Secondary school pupils will have to wear facemasks initially while staff in all schools are advised to wear masks.
• All secondary and college pupils will be tested twice a week
• One person will be able to meet one other person from another household outside for recreation, not just exercise
• This includes meeting in private gardens and will mean two people can meet for a picnic or sit on a bench with a coffee but they cannot play tennis or golf
• Care home residents will be allowed one named visitor.

29 March

• Up to six people from different households or a larger group from two households can meet outside, including in private gardens
• Outdoor sports facilities can reopen and organised outdoor sports can take place for children and adults
• From this point, the government will drop the "Stay at Home" message and will instead encourage people to stay local wherever they can
• People will still have to work from home where possible and no overseas travel, apart from necessary work, will be allowed.

Step Two: 12 April

• After the school Easter holidays, non-essential retail, including hairdressers and beauty salons, can reopen
• Libraries, museums, zoos, theme parks and gyms can open - but no indoor mixing of different households allowed
• Outdoor hospitality can reopen, including pubs and restaurants - with the rule of six or a larger group from two households
• Customers will not have to buy a substantial meal to have an alcoholic drink and there will be no curfew but people will have to be seated when ordering and eating or drinking
• Self-catering holidays in the UK with your own household will be allowed
• Funerals of up to 30 people, wakes of up to 15 people.

Step Three: 17 May

• Outdoors, most social contact rules will be lifted, but gatherings of more than 30 will be illegal
• Indoors, the rule of six or a larger group of up to two households will be allowed
• Indoor hospitality - pubs, restaurants, cinemas, theatres, concert halls, children play areas, hotels, B&Bs, indoor exercise classes - will be allowed
• Large indoor performances and sporting events with a capacity of 1,000 people will be allowed
• Outdoor large performances and sporting events will have a maximum capacity of 4,000 people or must only be half full, whichever is lower
• Bigger sports stadiums will be allowed 10,000 people or can only be a quarter full, whichever is lower
• Testing will be used to support these openings
• Weddings, wedding receptions, wakes, funerals and christenings will be allowed 30 people.

Step Four: 21 June

• All legal limits on social contact removed
• Government hopes to reopen nightclubs and lift restrictions on large events such as festivals
• Testing could be used as a condition of entry
• Ministers hope to remove restrictions on weddings

Yet to be decided

There are a few rules and issues that have not yet been agreed and will be subject to review during the easing of lockdown.

  1. The one-metre plus rule, mandatory facemasks and working from home
The government hopes to conclude a review of this before step four.
  1. Whether you can use proof of having a COVID-19 vaccine to enter mass events. The government hopes to set out the conclusion of a review prior to step four on whether vaccine or test certificates could be used to reopen the rest of the economy.
  2. International travel
The government has said this will not resume before 17 May following a review that will be completed by 12 April.
  1. Major events
HarrietPierce · 22/02/2021 16:04

Dates not Data

PM's 'unlocking' roadmap:

March 8: Schools back

March 29: 2 households outdoors. Outdoor sport

April 12: Non-essential retail. Hairdressers. Pubs outside. Gyms & swimming pools. Self-catering hols

May 17: Indoor mixing incl o/nt stays. Sports fans back. Poss foreign travel.

Watercoloursky · 22/02/2021 16:04

Handy summary of what he's just said here: www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/22/step-by-step-how-england-lockdown-lifted

Xenia · 22/02/2021 16:08

Weddings are on! We are over the moon.
Sadly only 4 guests can come [how mean is that!!!][ - the parents but at least they will be allowed to marry in March. Full steam ahead now.

ILookAtTheFloor · 22/02/2021 16:10

What about indoor children's activities like dance schools? Not mentioned?

Tiktokersmiracle · 22/02/2021 16:12

@Xenia

Weddings are on! We are over the moon. Sadly only 4 guests can come [how mean is that!!!][ - the parents but at least they will be allowed to marry in March. Full steam ahead now.
I saw that

Looks like mine should be OK, he said no restrictions after 21st June

Keeping everything crossed

MarshaBradyo · 22/02/2021 16:12

[quote Watercoloursky]Handy summary of what he's just said here: www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/22/step-by-step-how-england-lockdown-lifted[/quote]
Oh my goodness good to see

AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 22/02/2021 16:20

Unfortunately it's too late for many weddings this year. I work in the wedding industry (thankfully there's a bit of crossover with other sectors - it's not this, but imagine I'm a florist) and already half of my 2021 customers have postponed to 2022 or 2023.

I know from experience that if there's either uncertainty, or a significantly restricted number of guests, then they'll cancel months in advance.

SimonJT · 22/02/2021 16:20

What date did he say weddings are allowed from again?

Frozenintime · 22/02/2021 16:23

I can't see anything about U.K holidays ?

Thesearmsofmine · 22/02/2021 16:25

I am so excited for the library and museums to reopen.

peak2021 · 22/02/2021 16:27

Looking at the sports grounds rule, the FA Cup final will be without spectators.

lockdownalli · 22/02/2021 16:27

So no foreign holidays until May 17 at the earliest? Sad

Dahlietta · 22/02/2021 16:31

I can't see anything about U.K holidays ?

Self-catering from 12th April. Hotels from May 17th, I believe!

TwirpingBird · 22/02/2021 16:34

@lockdownalli

So no foreign holidays until May 17 at the earliest? Sad
Pretty sure its 21st June at the earliest. We will know on the 12th if april.

I am desperate to see my parents in my home country. I have been home in 2 years.

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