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Data, Stats & Daily Numbers started 28th Jan

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TheSunIsStillShining · 28/01/2021 17:04

UK govt pressers Slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics Attendance explore-education-statistics. service.gov.uk/find-statistics/attendance-in-education-and-early-years-settings-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHs England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSAO Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
CovidMessenger live update by council district in England www.covidmessenger.com/
Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, tests, ONS deaths Dashboard app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe Uk data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK read https_www.ecdc.europa.eu/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecdc.europa.eu%2Fen%2Fcases-2019-ncov-eueea
Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=gbr&areas=fra&areas=esp&areas=ita&areas=deu&areas=swe&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&byDate=1&cumulative=1&logScale=1&per100K=1&values=deaths
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

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ATieLikeRichardGere · 08/02/2021 20:30

I posted earlier a list of interventions that we are currently using to tackle covid. One thing that wasn’t on it, and I don’t think we are doing it, is creating public alerts? Things like saying, there is an outbreak associated with this place - steer clear, if you’ve been watch for symptoms? I know there was some early controversy about this system in South Korea because of the revealing level of detail: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-51733145
Does anything similar happen in the UK? Is anyone aware of any studies about whether this type of intervention is effective?

MRex · 08/02/2021 20:30

I think the surge point is not quite about tracing, though while initial cases would be identified too late for trace prioritisation the contacts of the contacts can be prioritised for tracing, at least catching it one stage along. I think though the main purpose is to identify if it's a handful of linked cases in each area, likely to link back to a traveller... Or high levels of sporadic spread that means it's both endemic and taking over from Kent variant. I expect they hope to find the former, god knows what happens if it's the latter in any area.

I agree with @wintertravel1980, below 10k next Tuesday 16th, then back up again. I'd say we might get below 10k again for the Friday 19th though. I'm feeling sad for myself about another cancelled hospital appointment, and worried for my consultant who's really had a rough ride of the pandemic including family deaths and is back looking after ICU patients now (the specialism gets hit hard with covid), so if I don't post for a few days it's nothing important, just a little wallow time.

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/02/2021 20:33

@littleowl1
Thank you!
If there's anything I can potentially help re:homeschooling (maybe gather resources) let me know!

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JanFebAnyMonth · 08/02/2021 20:39

@ATieLikeRichardGere

I posted earlier a list of interventions that we are currently using to tackle covid. One thing that wasn’t on it, and I don’t think we are doing it, is creating public alerts? Things like saying, there is an outbreak associated with this place - steer clear, if you’ve been watch for symptoms? I know there was some early controversy about this system in South Korea because of the revealing level of detail: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-51733145 Does anything similar happen in the UK? Is anyone aware of any studies about whether this type of intervention is effective?
I suppose the only times it has happened we're in the summer when an infected person(S) failed to quarantine after a holiday (at least I think that was the problem in a couple of cases) and then went on a pub crawl. Bolton/ Plymouth(?) / Aberdeen iirc

So it was felt to be justifiable because the individual(s) had ignored guidance?

It's a form of backward contact tracing isn't it - which we don't seem to be doing at all?

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/02/2021 20:46

ITV
"So to be clear:

  1. ALL arrivals must have a negative Covid test within past 72 hours taken abroad. They must also test for Covid here on days 2 and 8 of their self-isolation.
  1. Those coming from red zone countries do the above but quarantine in hotels which they cannot leave."

What's the point of number 1? There are now 1 years worth of stats proving how ppl don't give a shit.

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wintertravel1980 · 08/02/2021 21:09

What's the point of number 1?

As a practical matter, people are more likely to get tested than to quarantine. Testing on days -3, 2 and 8 should pick up most of the imported cases.

The 2 weeks full self-isolation requirement might seem a perfect solution on paper but the problem is too many individuals ignore it (even if the rules are very strict). The real options are (i) supervised quarantine or (ii) regular testing.

I am not sure how many people remember Russian response to COVID. The government took the threat seriously from very early on (even though their external messaging was very different). They implemented two week mandatory quarantine for most of the overseas arrivals. Russian police did daily spot checks on self-isolating individuals. People faced criminal consequences for non-compliance (including jail sentences). They also received full pay for their isolation period.

However, all this careful planning only deferred the problem, not eliminated it. People simply refused to follow the rules. One of the first superspreaders in Southern Russia was someone who did not fit any criteria of a rule breaker. It was a woman. In her fifties. Highly educated. A doctor. In fact, a professor specialising in infectious diseases. A director of public health in a region with 2.8mm population.

When people like this break the rules, it probably indicates the rules are not particularly workable and need to be changed.

ATieLikeRichardGere · 08/02/2021 21:34

@JanFebAnyMonth I also remember those pub crawl incidents. I can’t think of any other times there has been a similar alert.

I see for example this in Australia www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/case-locations-and-alerts.aspx
I don’t know if this is an intervention that has been shown to work at all. Been trying to find out.

JanFebAnyMonth · 08/02/2021 21:41

Oh @wintertravel1980 I didn't know any of that about Russia. Interesting!

Coquohvan · 08/02/2021 21:53

@MRex hope you feel better soon and you app isn’t too far away.

Hardbackwriter · 08/02/2021 21:58

[quote ATieLikeRichardGere]@JanFebAnyMonth I also remember those pub crawl incidents. I can’t think of any other times there has been a similar alert.

I see for example this in Australia www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/case-locations-and-alerts.aspx
I don’t know if this is an intervention that has been shown to work at all. Been trying to find out.[/quote]
Surely it's only useful as an approach if numbers are pretty low? About 500 people a week are currently testing positive in my medium sized town so if we all got told every time one of them had been in a supermarket or whatever prior to the positive we'd be inundated?

lurker101 · 08/02/2021 21:59

@ATieLikeRichardGere Hong Kong also publish the building location of confirmed/probable cases. It would probably be very unpopular here (and less useful particularly when many people live in single family homes rather than apartment building) but I think it’s a great system so anyone can check before going somewhere (visit friends if within the rules) or after having been somewhere (delivery driver/domestic help etc.)

www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/building_list_eng.pdf

JanFebAnyMonth · 08/02/2021 22:03

Very small numbers currently, but potentially good news re cures from Israel:

www.israel21c.org/has-israel-just-found-the-cure-for-covid/

Eyewhisker · 08/02/2021 22:21

Jan - that is the best thing I have read in a year. Fingers crossed that it is real.

JanFebAnyMonth · 08/02/2021 22:32

Indeed.

Sadly have also just seen less good news:
Moss Side and other areas of Manchester, surge testing but not for SA variant identification:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-55986900

Firefliess · 08/02/2021 23:01

[quote JanFebAnyMonth]Indeed.

Sadly have also just seen less good news:
Moss Side and other areas of Manchester, surge testing but not for SA variant identification:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-55986900[/quote]
That news article makes no sense and must surely be an error? The Kent strain is well known to be everywhere, throughout the UK. They wouldn't be making a fuss about finding 4 cases! I rather fear is the SA strain and some journalist has got their wires crossed.

ATieLikeRichardGere · 08/02/2021 23:04

It means Kent plus E484K but it’s weird the way they’ve written it!

Firefliess · 08/02/2021 23:09

@ATieLikeRichardGere

It means Kent plus E484K but it’s weird the way they’ve written it!
Ahh! That makes a bit more sense why they're worried then. Not good news.

On the plus side that article about the Israeli drug treatments looks very positive - especially the but about the fact that the drugs could be manufactured quickly and cheaply at scale across the world.

I've never been to Israel and most of what I know about them is the political conflict. Am starting to have new-found admiration for their amazing science and efficiency and rolling out vaccines!

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/02/2021 23:15

@wintertravel1980
Yes, I know. Hungary uses the same system. The problem in both countries is that if you have an envelope to slide over you can always get anything done. This is not any different. And from that point it's pointless.
In other -less corrupt- countries it does work though with much better efficiency.

@ATieLikeRichardGere / @lurker101
many threads ago last spring(ish) I suggested a tracking app and you can only imagine what I got.

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JanFebAnyMonth · 08/02/2021 23:15

@ATieLikeRichardGere

It means Kent plus E484K but it’s weird the way they’ve written it!
Yes I thought that. It would be very confusing to Joe Public.

Moss side is a deprived area of central Manchester isn't it.

ATieLikeRichardGere · 08/02/2021 23:31

@TheSunIsStillShining I see it as pretty different from a tracking app though. The info doesn’t have to be so granular as to be identifiable, but people can choose to modify their behaviour if they want to based on the information. A tracking app can tell me to isolate and I’ve no idea why, and it can’t tell me if somewhere I was planning to go could be high risk. I’m not saying this would work but a few successful places seem to do it and I’m intrigued.

CoffeeandCroissant · 09/02/2021 00:48

Another promising study on single dose of the mRNA vaccines and B.1.351 (variant originally identified in South Africa).

While natural immunity confers only weak activity against B.1.351, a single dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines generates strong activity against B.1.351.

This provides evidence suggesting that even seropositive individuals should be vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2, to provide protection against novel strains.
mobile.twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1358933838987022336

As we are both single dosing initially (12 week gap) and vaccinating people regardless of prior infection, this is good news for our (UK) rollout re Pfizer and Moderna (when it arrives in 2 months time).

TheSunIsStillShining · 09/02/2021 01:04

@ATieLikeRichardGere
posted slightly silly. sorry about that.

I was interested in how cluster analysis could be done to be meaningful many months ago. So I designed a solution - on paper. It's one of the packed/sealed boxes*. But I remember having a couple of issues that would need to be solved and I don't know if/what data is available:

  1. location of patient is given. But a cluster would/could form around other than home location. Like, factory, school... so backtracked ttr data would have to be used too to identify common places. and some % of likeliness of catching it there could be devised
  2. msoa level is too high. Look at Kew - even that is too big, it would have to be split. This is the easy part, many have done it, incl. the royal mail and other logistics companies.
  3. biggest issue with reliability would be about self confessed places. Many ppl would not be truthful or simply forget.

What you're talking about is slightly different, but interesting. It would have to rely on past (but no longer than, say 10-14 days) of cluster analysis and combine it with movement data of individuals. At this point you have to have the individual's geo data at hand to cross reference if close to any clusters. Geo data is mostly given freely by people simply because they don't turn off google or apple built into the map tracking. So technically it could be possible.
So it would be something like:
Google maps knows that I go to East Sheen Waitrose 2x a week. If there is a cluster there it would send me notification. Or flip it: wherever I want to go I can check if it's green/orange/red on the map.
but.
without almost real-time ttr it's borderline useless. my issue is that as far as i can tell ppl give generic answers to where you were. I might say waitrose, but not mention local grocery store as I forget. Or I don't go to school, but my kid does and even though I go to waitrose 2x a week, it is more likely that my teenage son brought it home from school. And here is where the likelihood % would come into play as the algorithm would have to be trained to know which is more likely. Then again, if my shopping is in a flimsy mask under my nose** than, yes, waitrose will be the culprit more likely.

The solution I looked into (one of the asian ones) actually used individual movement geo data -so app that records movement and time spent in places- and cross checked with covid patient/testing dbs. If I remember correctly.
I think I abandoned this at this point because in western culture this level of individual tracking - even if used on a not identifiable level- would never fly. Which to me is a really sad thing as I think that technology would have been so useful.

Imo the best solution still would be to track individuals anonymize data use datasets. This requires either trust in the gov that is doing the anonymization, or full transparency of the dataset and the anonymization process. The second is much easier to do. But even me, the cynical, anti-gov person would be okay if the second was public info.

*we are moving tomorrow/wed and our life is a mess atm. And kitten is coming on Friday. We didn't think this through properly... :)

**if some baseline things could be taken for granted - like people always wearing high grade masks properly for the entire duration of being out and about.... this would make life easier. In general.

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