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Would you take your elderly mum to Sainsbury's

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Icequeen01 · 12/01/2021 18:15

So I'm in such a quandary about this. My DM who is 81 has had both her jabs. She hasn't been out for weeks and weeks and I do her shopping each week when I do mine. She has told me she is coming with me to Sainsbury's next week as it will then be over a week since her booster. She knows she has to wear a mask, hand sanitise and socially distance etc.

I'm still not comfortable with taking her though. I've explained that they don't know if she can still transmit the virus but this is something she desperately wants to do, just to have a little bit of normality again and to be able to do her own shopping. She was very upset when I suggested she shouldn't come.

What would you do?

OP posts:

charliespie · 14/01/2021 21:47

It doesn't really work like that 😅

It really does.

When I said I was asking that poster I meant i am not asking you, you cannot answer why someone left their specific comment and I will pay zero attention to your opinion of what they meant

MrsMiaWallis · 14/01/2021 21:50

You asked what the point of the vaccine was and I answered.

If you wanted to only talk to a specific poster then maybe don't post on an open forum, just pm them?

VinylDetective · 14/01/2021 21:52

@MrsMiaWallis

You asked what the point of the vaccine was and I answered.

If you wanted to only talk to a specific poster then maybe don't post on an open forum, just pm them?

It doesn’t work like that.

MrsShelton · 14/01/2021 21:53

@MrsMiaWallis

There's going to be shitloads of mutations. Scientists seem confident they can tweak things though.

its not a mutation thoughts a variant.... very different

what if it means another vaccine for everyone?

MrsMiaWallis · 14/01/2021 21:53

Oh well. Perhaps the poster you were talking to will come back and explain to you why restrictions will probably remain in place during the vaccine rollout.

WishingHopingThinkingPraying · 14/01/2021 21:54

Take her. Wait in the carpark and let her have a good browse and shop on her own. If she's not able to manage walking around alone filling a trolley then no, she can't go as two adults can't go shopping together.

saraclara · 14/01/2021 21:57

@Handcarthell

Excellent.

Ask her to explain basic infection control and viral transmission to you.

I don't think it's changed since I was an ITU sister. But since I'm now elderly it might have

She thinks you're barking. Hope that helps. And she's excited about OP's mum's (eventual) shopping trip. She's perfectly confident that the DM will wear her mask, wipe her trolley and hand sanitise.

charliespie · 14/01/2021 22:02

You asked what the point of the vaccine was and I answered.

Like I said. I was specifically asking that poster what they thought the point was, since it was them, and not you, who made the comment I was questioning.

If you wanted to only talk to a specific poster then maybe don't post on an open forum, just pm them?

I don't only want to talk to a specific poster though, I just don't give a flying shit what your interpretation of that posters comment is. It's quite simple.

charliespie · 14/01/2021 22:06

@MrsMiaWallis

Oh well. Perhaps the poster you were talking to will come back and explain to you why restrictions will probably remain in place during the vaccine rollout.

I know why they will remain in place during roll out.

MrsMiaWallis · 14/01/2021 22:07

Why ask then? You are sounding more and nore confused.

charliespie · 14/01/2021 22:08

@MrsMiaWallis

Why ask then? You are sounding more and nore confused.

I'm not confused. That's not what I asked. It's not what the poster said either. Maybe just leave that alone? It's not doing you any favours and it is a tad boring.

TheGoodEnoughWife · 14/01/2021 22:08

@WishingHopingThinkingPraying

This is also not true! If she requires help to do her own shopping then actually she can have help. For goodness sake. The two people shopping restrictions don't apply to those that need help to shop.

charliespie · 14/01/2021 22:09

@WishingHopingThinkingPraying

This is ridiculous. If she needed help she would be allowed help

People really are just making up shot based on their own poor opinions and trying to pass it off as the truth.

blueberryporridge · 14/01/2021 23:28

There are tonnes of people who could be doing click and collect/delivery or who could get the neighbours to double up for them too. That probably includes you.

Well, personally, I have been absolutely minimising my contact with other people since last March, including virtually no visits to shops, no visits to restaurants/bars/hairdressers etc - only other interaction has been outdoors with plenty social distancing. I have two children who have had to be at school between lockdowns and that was more than enough exposure to risk in my opinion. I know that I am lucky to have a job where that is possible, but surely that's the point: those of us (including OP's mum) who can stay at home should stay at home.

Also to the other PP who said that wearing a mask means you are not a risk to other people: it does NOT remove the risk of you infecting someone else - it cuts it by 65-85% depending on which study you look at.

It is truly scary that so many posters on this thread seem not to be aware of basic information about the virus, vaccines, and transmission risks. Now that the numbers of people getting the vaccination are rising, there is a real need for a public health campaign to explain that the danger doesn't diminish for us as a whole until a certain proportion of the population has been vaccinated (80%. I think) and that restrictions will need to continue until we reach that point. Because it is obvious that lots of people don't get that yet.

WouldBeGood · 14/01/2021 23:31

I just go to the shops when I need messages. I’ve been out to pubs, restaurants and hotels when they were open, and been to France when it was allowed. All legal. No trail of death.

WouldBeGood · 14/01/2021 23:32

Once the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated there’s no need for restrictions

SnoozyLou · 15/01/2021 00:26

Saraclara you do realise atm the number of elderly vaccinated are outnumbered by nhs staff and other vulnerable people?

'They' means the Vaccinated Ones*

All of the nurses and care workers I know have had at least 1 vaccination.

VinylDetective · 15/01/2021 00:35

I think herd immunity is well below 80%, especially when the youngest 40% of the population is unlikely to be vaccinated unless they have underlying health conditions.

Thefeep · 15/01/2021 02:10

Yes. She wants to go and get her shopping.

MrsShelton · 15/01/2021 09:59

@WouldBeGood of course there will still be a need for restrictions!!!

Once vaccinated you can still get covid, it only offers a certain amount of protection and you can still pass it on!! There is also the issue of other variants .....scientists don’t know yet if the current vaccine protects against them or not!

So no, restrictions won’t all be magically lifting

The virus is the same as us you know.... it wants to live! And it’s doing a very good job of it

WouldBeGood · 15/01/2021 11:09

@MrsShelton the restrictions are not to prevent people getting the virus, they’re to try to prevent the health service collapsing. Once the at risk people are vaccinated it doesn’t matter who else gets it

MadameBlobby · 15/01/2021 11:55

Some people really are desperate for restrictions to continue forever. Utterly bizarre. Maybe they can stay at home and let the rest of us get our lives back once we’ve had the vaccine.

puffinkoala · 15/01/2021 11:58

@WishingHopingThinkingPraying

Of course they can. If you can't fill a trolley alone, then you need someone to go with you to help.

saraclara · 15/01/2021 12:21

I regularly see people shopping with carers in my local Tesco. And I'm very glad to see them, whether their problems are physical or cognitive. It's important to have agency and to make one's own choices, and it's what every one of us would want were we disabled, mildly or severely, in any way. It has never occurred to me for one second that their presence is any kind of risk to me.

MrsShelton · 15/01/2021 15:43

@WouldBeGood with new variants popping up the hospitals will still be full!!

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