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Good News Part 5. For science, positivity, puffins and daffodils. For anyone who isn't coping with gloom and doom.All aboard Boaty McBoatface!

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FuzzyPuffling · 11/01/2021 12:15

New thread for the positive crew. Oldies, lurkers and newbies all welcome. Keep the science and positivity coming.

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InterfectoremVulpes · 17/01/2021 18:41

@FuzzyPuffling

littelowl!, your numbers vary massively from Zoes? (I'm not carping, just wondering)

Your chart has Cornwall at 299 cases per 100,000, Zoe says 630.
Zoe says we're 327 cases up on last week's total, now at the second highest ever.

I'm genuinely wondering how the difference in these numbers comes about. (And which ones shall I look at?)

Zoe predicts the number of cases and is not too accurate at a local level
InterfectoremVulpes · 17/01/2021 18:42

In other news... we're gonna need a bigger boat soon!

MarcelineMissouri · 17/01/2021 18:57

Look at Israel go!!

twitter.com/maxcroser/status/1350752253691523073?s=21

TeaInTheGarden · 17/01/2021 19:07

@FuzzyPuffling the total active cases on Zoe will take a bit longer to come down then the number of new cases per day reported in @littleowl1’s table. The total is still being added to, but the amount added each day is decreasing. Eventually the active cases will start to decline as people start getting better.
Correct me if I’m wrong little owl, this is my understanding.

Looking at the government data the 7 day rolling average of new cases for Cornwall and Isles of Scilly is dropping.

Good News Part 5. For science, positivity, puffins and daffodils. For anyone who isn't coping with gloom and doom.All aboard Boaty McBoatface!
FourTeaFallOut · 17/01/2021 19:09

I know, I can't believe they are about to start immunising the over 45s. Are they still using only the Pfizer?

BBCONEANDTWO · 17/01/2021 19:11

[quote MarcelineMissouri]Look at Israel go!!

twitter.com/maxcroser/status/1350752253691523073?s=21[/quote]
That's completely incredible they'll probably have vaccinated the whole population with the first dose by the end of next week at the rate they're going.

PuzzledObserver · 17/01/2021 19:13

Here’s some good news: DH and I did our normal 2.1 mile walk today and he’s well enough to go back to work tomorrow.

He’s had Covid for 3 weeks (me for 2.5) and even a few days ago basically couldn’t do anything other than get out of bed and shuffle from room to room.

Now we’re nearly better :-)

Crazycatlady83 · 17/01/2021 19:29

Can I share some selfish good news? My parents “got the call” this evening (from their GP - working on a Sunday 👏👍) and they have their appointments for tomorrow at 4.20pm!! They are prepared to travel to a hub. My dad is vulnerable (has a history of heart concerns) but they are both in their late 60s so I wasn’t expecting it so soon! Had to share as I’m really (selfishly) relieved they are getting it so soon!!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/01/2021 19:34

That’s the first time I have heard of people in their 60s being called! Very good news.

(Thoughts are with everyone whose relatives are over 80 and still waiting.)

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 17/01/2021 19:40

@Crazycatlady83

Can I share some selfish good news? My parents “got the call” this evening (from their GP - working on a Sunday 👏👍) and they have their appointments for tomorrow at 4.20pm!! They are prepared to travel to a hub. My dad is vulnerable (has a history of heart concerns) but they are both in their late 60s so I wasn’t expecting it so soon! Had to share as I’m really (selfishly) relieved they are getting it so soon!!
That's brilliant!
littleowl1 · 17/01/2021 20:18

I admit - I am not an active user of Zoe.

I understand the premise - a subset of the population (a minority) report their symptoms regularly which provides enough data to make wider predictions and assessments.

When I looked at my area on Zoe there were so few people reporting compared to the overall population that it would be daft and unnecessary to use such a small dataset to make any prediction - the huge number turning up to be tested was (IMO) a far more accurate way to estimate virus patterns locally.

Zoe is an interesting concept but I am not sure it is as relevant as it was last Spring - why rely on something that is an estimate based on a small minority sample of the population, when the entire population has access to testing when they deem that they have symptoms (a far, far bigger sample than those reporting on Zoe).

I suspect Zoe was hugely useful earlier in the pandemic when govt data was patchy and testing capacity was very, very low. People with symptoms couldn't get tests then. So we couldn't get a clear picture of what was happening anywhere with the available data. So an app like Zoe was invaluable.

But that has changed.

Now the testing capacity in the UK is phenomenal and results are available within a few days. So I am not sure what Zoe can meaningfully "predict" accurately that the govt published data cannot.

And my guess is, that a lot of the time, it's quite a bit off - because it is an estimate based on a minority of the population electing to report, of which an even smaller minority have symptoms.

Just my tuppence..... Smile

FuzzyPuffling · 17/01/2021 20:21

Thanks littleowl1. That's very helpful.

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1990s · 17/01/2021 20:33

@PuzzledObserver

Here’s some good news: DH and I did our normal 2.1 mile walk today and he’s well enough to go back to work tomorrow.

He’s had Covid for 3 weeks (me for 2.5) and even a few days ago basically couldn’t do anything other than get out of bed and shuffle from room to room.

Now we’re nearly better :-)

So pleased for you @PuzzledObserver, out the other side! Daffodil
Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 17/01/2021 20:40

@Crazycatlady83

Can I share some selfish good news? My parents “got the call” this evening (from their GP - working on a Sunday 👏👍) and they have their appointments for tomorrow at 4.20pm!! They are prepared to travel to a hub. My dad is vulnerable (has a history of heart concerns) but they are both in their late 60s so I wasn’t expecting it so soon! Had to share as I’m really (selfishly) relieved they are getting it so soon!!
Is he group 4 then?
Motorina · 17/01/2021 21:18

BBC reporting that over half of over 80s have been vaccinated.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55694967

TheFerretsSleeping · 17/01/2021 21:49

Place marking. Ive been following since thread 1 but lost you guys after number 4.

Pomegranatespompom · 17/01/2021 22:06

Vaccination centres on bbc news - just brilliant.

Sir Simon is always calm and fairly reassuring.

Summerflowers101 · 17/01/2021 22:12

The BBC news at 10 just said from tomorrow over 70s will be invited for their first jab.

Shehz21 · 17/01/2021 22:33

@Crazycatlady83

Can I share some selfish good news? My parents “got the call” this evening (from their GP - working on a Sunday 👏👍) and they have their appointments for tomorrow at 4.20pm!! They are prepared to travel to a hub. My dad is vulnerable (has a history of heart concerns) but they are both in their late 60s so I wasn’t expecting it so soon! Had to share as I’m really (selfishly) relieved they are getting it so soon!!
Oh Gosh this is absolutely brilliant news!
amicissimma · 17/01/2021 23:09

I think the Zoe app is a good way to collate the experiences of members of the public. AFAIK it was through Zoe that it was recognised that altered/lost sense of taste and/or smell was a frequent symptom.

Now they are encouraging people to report how they respond to the vaccine, which could highlight any issues quite quickly. It's more user-friendly than the yellow form, specially for people who are already using Zoe.

I think it's interesting (not in a good way) that Cornwall's cases were low all through and after the summer when it had an influx of visitors from all over the country, albeit cases were generally low. Now, when I'd've thought movement in and out of the county was comparitively low, is when they get their wave. Hopefully that's subsiding now.

tobee · 17/01/2021 23:23

@Summerflowers101

The BBC news at 10 just said from tomorrow over 70s will be invited for their first jab.
Over 70s and cev!!!!
tobee · 17/01/2021 23:23

Here:-

Covid-19: Vaccination rollout begins for over-70s in England www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55698132

scotlandg · 17/01/2021 23:37

Hi, I'm CEV and had my jab today. My area didn't start on anyone until yesterday. So they completed all of the over 8os and then next band and worked down. Means so much to us as my children haven't been able to attend school because of medical risk to me. I cried when they phoned me. So it's moving fast when it gets to your area.

scotlandg · 17/01/2021 23:38

Meant to say I'm in a rural south west county.

clarexbp · 17/01/2021 23:45

Early hints that the Pfizer vaccine is working to reduce serious infections in the over-65s in Israel (which has vaxed around a quarter of its entire population, and around 80% of older people - those aged over 65 I think).

Early days, and everyone is being very cautious, but the signs are good. This from Eran Segal (Israeli Epidemiologist) on Twitter. He's hot too. The Y axis translates as 'Percent share of serious infections' or similar.

Good News Part 5. For science, positivity, puffins and daffodils. For anyone who isn't coping with gloom and doom.All aboard Boaty McBoatface!