Sadiq Khan declares major incident in London

[Ohbabybab]

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-55588163

Do we need to be doing more to stop the virus spread?

The govt should of done it earlier.
This was obviously coming
What more can we do ?

He should not have sanctioned mixing over Christmas 🤷‍♀️

Masks everywhere. Only absolutely essential trips out, tighter definition of keyworker, quarantine on return from overseas

@Separateatone

Masks everywhere. Only absolutely essential trips out, tighter definition of keyworker, quarantine on return from overseas

No one enforces the quarantine when coming in from overseas

What more can we do?

Stay home.

If you must go out, stay local and interact with as few people as possible and from a safe distance.

And get used to it - hospital admissions reflect transmissions a week or so beforehand, and there's at least a week's worth of positive tests inexorably rising yet to go (fingers crossed that yesterday's figures are the start of the new trajectory)

(The contrast between this and the Derbyshire arrests thread is quite striking)

In London they are using firefighters to drive ambulances to increase capacity

Schools only closed on Tuesday. We haven't had a chance to see if that makes a difference yet.

I keep hearing that the nightingale hospital isn't up and running now?
If it isn't , then this could help if they can find the staff? I know that's a tall order by the way.
It's sad his had to do this but many haven't been following the rules or wearing face coverings , so I'm not surprised this is getting worse in London now.

Too late, horse bolted at Christmas, time to let what will be, be - you can't contain it now, not without sending everyone home and shutting everything, but it'll still be there when we open up.

Unfortunately, people still aren't taking it seriously and thinking it's a hysterical overreaction to a 'mild flu'

@Waxonwaxoff0

Schools only closed on Tuesday. We haven't had a chance to see if that makes a difference yet.

They haven't really closed, though. Many of them still have 75% of students coming in.

Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of university students are heading back to campus because they want to party be with their mates.

I can't see this "lockdown" having much impact on the spread, unfortunately. We just have to hope the vaccine does its job.

Dreadful. Feel grateful we are not in london. Hope all Londoners are as ok as they can be x

@Theunamedcat He didn't.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sadiq-khan-christmas-rules-coronavirus-review-b1774124.html

@GCAcademic think that’s a tad unfair on university students, they’re paying 9k a year tuition plus rent on accommodation you’re saying they shouldn’t be entitled to live in? University students aren’t to blame for this. Or at least not in the sense you’re suggesting.

@RoseAndRose

What more can we do?

Stay home.

If you must go out, stay local and interact with as few people as possible and from a safe distance.

And get used to it - hospital admissions reflect transmissions a week or so beforehand, and there's at least a week's worth of positive tests inexorably rising yet to go (fingers crossed that yesterday's figures are the start of the new trajectory)

(The contrast between this and the Derbyshire arrests thread is quite striking)

In London they are using firefighters to drive ambulances to increase capacity

The firefighters driving ambulances is not that new. We had an ambulance out for dd last summer for an allergic reaction with a nice strapping fireman driving

I really think there’s an argument to concentrate the vaccine on areas with high case numbers. I realise that’s an increasingly redundant argument at the numbers we’re seeing increasing nationally but if we have a steady supply ordered then the direction of the supply could be adjusted.

1. Nobody is taking it seriously
2. Schools are still pretty much full due to parents taking the absolute piss with the key worker roles
3. It’s not the issue of not having nightingales open- we don’t have sufficient numbers to staff them.

Schools need to be allowed to restrict access to families with 2 KW working out of the home only. Yes that is a nightmare for families but this is an emergency. The roads really aren't any quieter since the latest lockdown and school closures were instigated, there are still too many people out and about. I am an HCP in the community visiting patients at home and still see regular mixing of families. I get that people are tired of it, I totally understand that. I am too. But the worst is yet to come so we all need to do our absolute best to reduce spread for a little bit longer...

Dreadful. Feel grateful we are not in london.

I think it's very scary. Infection data shows infection in school children peaked xmas day and then started to fall, but given how many children seem to be in schools it may well be rising again.

I don't understand why this lockdown isn't as strict or well supported as in March? Why aren't more people being furloughed?

@the80sweregreat they are opening up the Nightingale hospitals, in London they are using theirs as a vaccine centre. Originally they thought they could fill them with people on ventilators, but actually not many people are being fully ventilated and people need to be regularly moved which requires staffing beyond capacity to move covid patients to nightingale hospitals.

@nevernotstruggling being in London is not much different to being anywhere else. There aren’t mutant-strained infected people chasing us down the street or anything. I’m still having to go out to work every day as is DH. I’ve never not gone in. On the weekends we go shopping just like normal. The streets are pretty quiet. I know people imagine it would be ‘awful’ to be in the capital when something like this happens but it’s just a reality, and living day to day the same as everyone else is doing! It’s not 28 Days later.

@Cornettoninja

I really think there’s an argument to concentrate the vaccine on areas with high case numbers. I realise that’s an increasingly redundant argument at the numbers we’re seeing increasing nationally but if we have a steady supply ordered then the direction of the supply could be adjusted.

Fcuk that, we'll never hear the end of the north/south debate!

The worst mayor ever. Waste of space.

@Waxonwaxoff0

Schools only closed on Tuesday. We haven't had a chance to see if that makes a difference yet.

Not in London, our schools closed 18th December, didn’t reopen here for Monday. Lots of kids in though. We didn’t have any Christmas mixing either as our Christmas bubble stuff was cancelled. Been in tier 4 from the announcement on the 18th til now, so 3 weeks so far. Should have been making a difference to case numbers by now. This strain is definitely more contagious though, from what friends/family who work in London NHS have said lots and lots of staff are catching it this time, through full PPE. More family members are catching it, etc.

I personally think our best hope is people acting to curb contacts independently - but without financial support it's very difficult. If you need your job and your boss wants you in you have to go.