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Well the few have ruined it for the many again....wish I’d joined them in breaking the rules now

164 replies

Watermelon888 · 19/12/2020 20:20

Just that really.

Have been sensible, followed the rules, looking forward to a simple Christmas with us and dm who lives alone 200 miles away.

Have seen quite a few definite non household groups doing what they want, meals out indoors etc and of course they will have met up with who they want to over the last few weeks and will still probably moan about the restrictions or just ignore them.

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SaltyAF · 19/12/2020 21:47

I've no idea what anyone else has been up to OP, but I can tell you that zero mitigation in schools os an absolute shit show. If I was given to socialising in normal times I would certainly now be inclined to think it far less risky than my every day experience at work.

JacobReesMogadishu · 19/12/2020 21:48

I blame Kate Burley. And Rita Ora. Grin

Leflic · 19/12/2020 21:52

@DuesToTheDirt

given that most of the rules are nonsensical, you can hardly blame a load of people not following them

Yeah we had lunch out recently, but no alcohol allowed with it and no music in the restaurant. What nonsense. So if we'd had a glass of wine with our lunch we'd be more likely to give each other Covid? Hmm

FFS. Are you really that dense? It’s not about YOU it’s about a policy that works for the population as a whole. What’s the bit that spreads Covid? People. Meeting up, getting too close.

So a) eating out isn’t a great idea ( but we don’t want business to go to the walk completely).Less attractive lunches out are a good idea.
b) we don’t want people drinking because they relax too much.

doublehalo · 19/12/2020 21:53

By the few do you mean Boris and his 'experts'?

Redbrickwall · 19/12/2020 21:54

Why do people blame humans for getting infected with a virus whose sole job is to infect people? This blame game has to stop!!! It’s not Brexit!!

Nousernamesleftatall · 19/12/2020 21:56

Most infections from households have been brought in from the work place or schools. Medical staff, factories, nursing homes and hospitals are hotbeds for infection. Maybe everyone should stay at home but what about the people who have to work? Who is going to care for others or make sure we can eat. Funny how the politicians don’t follow their own rules. COVID mortality is on par with a common cold for the majority to a severe flu for old or frail. By all means keep safe for your mother’s sake but you cannot expect others who are not at risk to not meet with anyone outside their home indefinitely.

52andblue · 19/12/2020 21:58

I agree- it's not because (most) people haven't (largely) followed the rules its because the Govt have put the wrong rules on place, and much too slowly.
These last 6 weeks have been a classic example of that.

Plussizejumpsuit · 19/12/2020 21:58

@Watermelon888

Just that really.

Have been sensible, followed the rules, looking forward to a simple Christmas with us and dm who lives alone 200 miles away.

Have seen quite a few definite non household groups doing what they want, meals out indoors etc and of course they will have met up with who they want to over the last few weeks and will still probably moan about the restrictions or just ignore them.

Nope the late lockdown, shitty support for those without income then the encouragement of people to got to bars and restaurants in the summer as well as on holiday is what did it. You're just falling into the government's trap by believing this. They want us to blame each other so we don't blame them.
Fizbosshoes · 19/12/2020 21:59

Yes it is. They don't have a "new, more contagious form" in China or New Zealand because they didn't allow the virus to spread uncontrollably. That was what created conditions for a new form to emerge.

We cant keep comparing to Australia and New Zealand because the genie was out of the bottle here in February and cant be put back. On a different thread I likened it to some cancers - if caught early and treated, they can be cured. If the same cancer is discovered after its spread all over the body, it cant often be cured even with the same or more aggressive treatment.
And comparing with China when people were locked inside apartments is not helpful either (actually I saw this week that the enforced quarantine in the Melbourne Tower blocks was also deemed unlawful.)

user1471562688 · 19/12/2020 22:01

Why didn't you then? Following the "roolz" has had fuck all effect so just do what you want. A virus is a virus and will do what nature intended it to do and nothing will stop that. The buffoons in power and the complete devastation they have caused so far will not beat nature. They have destroyed everything for nothing.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 19/12/2020 22:04

@RaspberryCoulis

Fuck off with the blame game. It's nobody's "fault" that a new, more contagious form of covid is circulating.
indeed

it's just a virus doing what a virus does

timeforawine · 19/12/2020 22:05

Not schools where i am!!!! We've had 1 case yesterday in our school and that's it since school started in September, cases where i live are still low and thankfully for now we remain in T2.
I am pissed off at people i see on Facebook going out for a meal with friends, not same household and from a T3 area.

Highviolet1 · 19/12/2020 22:06

Absolutely load of rubbish. The government have failed us by refusing to listen to school leaders repeatedly saying that infection rates are out of control and schools needed to close early.

clopper · 19/12/2020 22:08

I think the main problem has been the rapid spread through universities...they were told to go and then taught on line! Then the rapid spread through senior schools...also told to attend! I hate this blame culture. Most people I have seen comply with distancing, handwashing and mask wearing. However, numbers are still growing around here. People have to go to work and school. I honestly think the media are to blame for a lot of the hysteria. As soon as one lockdown ends they are clamouring for another.

Bagamoyo1 · 19/12/2020 22:13

@BlueJackel

I'm sorry but I am sick to death of the blame being put on schools.

I work in a school in the Midlands we receive a weekly notice from the council telling us how many cases we have in schools across the borough.

This week the case numbers are 16 pupils and 6 staff in primary schools and 17 pupils and 8 staff in secondary schools and further education colleges.

Our general population has 374 new cases this week.

We are a tier 3 area.

It is NOT schools driving it around here.

Totally agree
KitKatastrophe · 19/12/2020 22:13

@jazzandh

500,000 approx die each year in the UK.

Who knows for how many of us, this will be the last Christmas anyway.

Covid, predominantly is fatal for those at the end of life anyway.....

Is this worth it? I don't know anymore.

It isn't worth it. It hasn't been for a long time.
yeOldeTrout · 19/12/2020 22:15

Fuck off with the blame game. It's nobody's "fault"

^That

Sertchgi123 · 19/12/2020 22:18

@MolyHolyGuacamole

The govt ruined it ages ago by not stocking up on PPE then refusing to close borders, and taking too long to make rules on face coverings, then they ruined it even more recently by continuing to keep schools open when they couldn't effectively enforce proper distancing.
The fucking virus ruined it. Other countries, who have handled it differently, are in the same boat!
ChristmasTreeFairy5000 · 19/12/2020 22:19

The rules are the world's largest chocolate teapot.

Pumpkinpie1 · 19/12/2020 22:21

Don’t talk so wet
Being home for one Christmas is not the end of the world
Man up people !

UsedUpUsername · 19/12/2020 22:22

@ElephantWhaleRabbit

The idea that Covid is spread around by rampant rule breaking is a comforting but it’s also total bollocks. It’s popular because it implies it could all be sorted by people just behaving themselves; it’s more palatable than the reality - i.e. that it’s spread around by people doing entirely lawful things - going to work, going to school, going to the shop, living / working in a care home.
Exactly. Feel like it’s the blind leading the blind, no proof their rules makes anything fucking better
Literallynoidea · 19/12/2020 22:22

Agree with the PP who said fuck off with the blame game.

Get a grip. It's a pandemic and this is what viruses do.

TerryHearn · 19/12/2020 22:23

Schools
Schools
Schools
Schools
Schools
University
Care Homes
NHS

Love51 · 19/12/2020 22:24

I don't know if I'm average, I think I possibly know a lot more people working in schools than most. All the people I know who have died of Covid have been in care homes or hospital. All the people I know who have had Covid and recovered work in schools except one who worked in the pharmacy department of a beauty shop. The care home people weren't breaking rules, they didn't have capacity. My friend in hospital knew he wouldn't be able to fight it off if he got it so hyper vigilant. My pharmacy assistant friend wasn't breaking rules. I can't vouch for all the teachers, but those I'm closer too were very vigilant. A virus doesn't have a moral compass. If you meet someone with the virus they may infect you, regardless of what tier you are in, whether the government have declared it high risk or not. The non lockdowns are because we think we can manage to treat everyone who gets really ill with Covid in that area. The only way to guarentee not catch it is to stay in isolation.

ktp100 · 19/12/2020 22:33

I don't wish I'd joined them.

When the wider implications of you doing as you please could mean death and you still go ahead you're either brain dead or pure scum.

There's a lot of scum about.