U.K. banned from Europe from Jan 1st

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Bad news for anyone who was hoping to get away next year :(

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/09/uk-holidaymakers-could-be-barred-from-visiting-eu-under-covid-safety-rules?fbclid=IwAR1ekypfCQe50MxEOIq3hvC3p2gy9nOCU7kUXPoajteT3xIpB27M3jlbPIE

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Well I’m ashamed of Britain, their behaviour at the moment is just beyond embarrassing.

Why would any normal country with a grown up government even be bothered with us?

Completely agree. Our politics and our behaviour on the international stage have become an utter disgrace of which we should all be ashamed, particularly those of us who voted for any of this.

Quinoa that tastes of freedom and national pride? Why did no one tell me this, I’d have voted to leave myself!

Forblueskies, I’m going to add xenophobic and ignorant to that list!

@nicky7654

Each country needs to claw back money as their businesses are in bad shape (like ours) They will not stop holiday makers as they keep the countries running with the financial contributions.

'They won't stop holidaymakers'

'They need to sell us Prosecco and Brie'

'The German car-makers will save us'

'They need us more than we need them'

Fuck sake. I am so tired of this bullshit.

No problem don’t have a passport

@RafaIsTheKingOfClay

Good point, Yes, we hold all the cards because we buy more from the EU than the EU buys from us in aggregate, well we did when we were part of the Single Market and had ports that weren't clogged. The German car manufacturers might be just delivering the cards we hold. Sort of like a dealer in a casino.

The spiteful EU just don't know their own interests. Either that or the integrity of the Single Market has a greater economic value than the aggregate trade balance and the trade imbalance when looked at on an individual Member State basis is massively outweighed by the economic value of the Single Market and the integrity of the EU.

You do realise that the SPANISH aren't allowed to holiday in Spain right now? The county line borders are shut and policed.

So why would the Spanish demand a veto for Britain? A country with a higher caseload than Spain, when it won't even allow its own citizens to go from town to coast and vice versa?

Holiday insurance is invalid at the moment anyway is it?

That would depend on the terms and conditions of each policy. Mine has specific exclusions related to covid but is otherwise valid for travel.

@todayIdrankmilk, I don't recall which authoritative journal, the Daily Mail, Spectator or Telegraph have begun the stories about the spiteful EU punishing holiday home owners and pet owners. The truth is coming out about the spiteful EU.

Specific conditions, not exclusions.

"It's because of COVID" is the new "It's because of the EU" and "It's because of Remainers"

OP, meanies and spiteful. If only there were a nanny who could come along and make them play fair. No sovereign nation should have to put up with this. Everyone would need to have kept the power to break international law relating to a Treaty we'd recently signed up to. If the meanie, spiteful EU hold that against us then that just emphasises their spiteful meaning-ness/meannie-spitefulness.

Who else heard story this morning (BBC radio?) about the English guy who had cancer treatment in last 5 years...after Brexit he's looking at £800 medical insurance cost to travel to EU for 2 weeks.

Presumably this man currently chooses to travel abroad without any travel insurance? An EHIC card won't pay for transfer to a UK hospital, mountain rescue, private hospital treatment, extra accommodation...

I think this was the increase in his travel insurance premium to visit his relatives in Europe

@Clavinova

Who else heard story this morning (BBC radio?) about the English guy who had cancer treatment in last 5 years...after Brexit he's looking at £800 medical insurance cost to travel to EU for 2 weeks.

Presumably this man currently chooses to travel abroad without any travel insurance? An EHIC card won't pay for transfer to a UK hospital, mountain rescue, private hospital treatment, extra accommodation...

Exactly

But some posters don’t let the facts get in the way do they?!

It will be an opportunity for GoFundMe for medical expenses or repatriation for travellers who don't pay for travel insurance that covers pre-existing conditions. Sovereignty will have many silver linings like that until the meannie, spiteful EU agree with an equivalent of the EHIC card arrangement.

@QuentinInQuarantino

You do realise that the SPANISH aren't allowed to holiday in Spain right now? The county line borders are shut and policed.

So why would the Spanish demand a veto for Britain? A country with a higher caseload than Spain, when it won't even allow its own citizens to go from town to coast and vice versa?

Why is everyone so holiday-addicted that they can’t wait for the vaccination programme to roll out anyway?

@QuentinInQuarantino

You do realise that the SPANISH aren't allowed to holiday in Spain right now? The county line borders are shut and policed.

So why would the Spanish demand a veto for Britain? A country with a higher caseload than Spain, when it won't even allow its own citizens to go from town to coast and vice versa?

Opening up all their bars and restaurants too quickly for British tourists to get shitfaced in almost certainly played a significant part in Spain’s second wave.

How much they want our tourists will probably depend on whether they have learnt from that and whether the tourism money is worth more than the economic effects of another lockdown I’d have thought.

An EHIC card won't pay for transfer to a UK hospital, mountain rescue, private hospital treatment, extra accommodation ...

Exactly, Clavinova - which is why I said that relying on it would be very risky for anyone with complex health needs
Not that it's ever stopped some of course, Brexit/Covid or not

I wouldn't have thought many on here would be going to Europe anyway, many hardly dare leave their house to go to the shops. Most of MN will be holed up in the new year panicking about the five days of Christmas that have just passed

I think an EHIC card only covered emergency treatment didn’t it? I don’t think you can get cancer treatments?
I always travel to EU countries with both. EHIC and travel insurance. I imagine travel insurance will go up a the benefit of emergency care is no longer covered. So similar to what you would pay now travelling outside EU?

@GroundAlmonds well it would be nice to see my mum again and the kids see their grandparents, it's been a year now.

I recently got a job after losing mine to COVID so can't do the 14 day quarantine or afford the pcr tests for the family, but my parents had finally booked to come out in January. I know a few people in france who share custody with their British ex's, whose kids now haven't seen their fathers in months. It's not all about holidays.

@Viviennemary

Covid is a good excuse to turn the screw.

So putting the UK in the category it's asked to be, ie not an EU member, is somehow selfish and vindictive - 'turning the screw' - and the EU are actually being unfair in some way if they don't give the UK special treatment? Is that really how you think it should work?!

Why?!

It will be an opportunity for GoFundMe for medical expenses or repatriation for travellers who don't pay for travel insurance that covers pre-existing conditions

Oh god not again

Luckily, as with the kerfuffle over Baby Dax, nobody's forced to give ...