U.K. banned from Europe from Jan 1st

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Bad news for anyone who was hoping to get away next year :(

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/09/uk-holidaymakers-could-be-barred-from-visiting-eu-under-covid-safety-rules?fbclid=IwAR1ekypfCQe50MxEOIq3hvC3p2gy9nOCU7kUXPoajteT3xIpB27M3jlbPIE

Thing is that the med countries have had a 9 month break from Brits due to COVID
and they have realised that they quite like not having drunken Engerland louts on their beaches

and the blerdy Costa Brits who refuse to learn the lingo or eat the local food
can go back where they came from

tee hee

@Zilla1

Some good news heard from a friend of a friend. The EU negotiators were heard discussing whether 'you can argue with stupid?'. I think they're being a little hard on themselves but if they're beginning to recognise their own shortcomings, hopefully they'll start to listen to what we're telling them and give the UK what it wants. It will save the German car manufacturers their drive to Berlin to tell Frau Merkel she needs to tell the EU to give the UK what it wants. I'm a bit surprised that drive has taken so long. Does anyone know if there's been snow on the Autobahn?

Nope- no snow so far. But also not much on Brexit in the German media today so maybe someone should tell them to hurry up, it is a long drive from southern Germany, where most car manufacturers are based, to Berlin...

I‘ve figured it out- the county in which both Daimler and Porsche are based is on strict lockdown as of today- no visits to Mutti in the capital possible I‘m afraid.

You might want to try Volkswagen - BMW is in Bavaria and they are all on their second litre of beer by now I guess...

Do they have Poets Day in Germany?

I don‘t think we do- but since we are the Country of Goethe and many other poets I am too lazy to Google after a couple of glasses of (Italian) wine, we obviously speak in rhymes most of the time anyways, so don’t need some special day for this.

@SabrinaThwaite

Do they have Poets Day in Germany?

What, 'piss off early, tomorrow's Saturday'?

They might do, I don't think there's that much of the presenteeism and live to work culture in Germany as there is in the UK.

What? No live to work Culture😤 zere is only work and no play. Ever.

@HijadelaLuna, thank you. lock down might explain the delay. Holding the cards then playing them seems more complicated than first appearances.

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The good old Royal Navy will protect the fish. Presumably protect them from unlawful fishing. Not protect them from UK trawlers I presume though I probably need to check to make sure these aren't conservation destroyers. Not destroyers of conservations, rather destroyers that are involved in conservation.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/11/four-navy-ships-to-help-protect-uk-waters-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit

[quote Zilla1]@HijadelaLuna, thank you. lock down might explain the delay. Holding the cards then playing them seems more complicated than first appearances.[/quote]
Yes afraid so. What about Italian car manufacturers? If you call them could you kindly ask them to drop of more wine at mine while they pass through? Would prefer dry red. Thanks in advance.

[quote Zilla1]The good old Royal Navy will protect the fish. Presumably protect them from unlawful fishing. Not protect them from UK trawlers I presume though I probably need to check to make sure these aren't conservation destroyers. Not destroyers of conservations, rather destroyers that are involved in conservation.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/11/four-navy-ships-to-help-protect-uk-waters-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit[/quote]
Glad you will have plenty of fish. As there won‘t be much else crossing the channel if you piss off the French.

Serious question, because I can't be bothered to google :)

What happens to Eurotunnel on jan1?
Yes, I know physically the tunnel will be fine :) but will it operate trains? Will it only take EU citizens (as brits won't have time to get their visa's sorted). what happens to uk registered car?

Not that I'm planning on actually going, but I like to know my options

@TheSunIsStillShining

Serious question, because I can't be bothered to google :)

What happens to Eurotunnel on jan1?
Yes, I know physically the tunnel will be fine :) but will it operate trains? Will it only take EU citizens (as brits won't have time to get their visa's sorted). what happens to uk registered car?

Not that I'm planning on actually going, but I like to know my options

I think thats kind of the million dollar question that the border police would also like to know the answer to as well...

I think the currentl official government line is something like 'you MAY need lots of paper work and a visa but you may not'. And asking us to plan accordingly.

Which is one reason lots of haulage drivers are unwilling to commit to being on the 'wrong side' of the channel without that clarity first. Which is already fucking up supply chains.

"I think that's kind of the million dollar question that the border police would also like to know the answer to as well..."

I'm at the point that I chuckled at this when really I want to scream and bang the clown's head against a wall until said wall turns red. And I am a very-very anti violence person.

I really just want exact clarity of how big the hole is that UK has dug under itself so I can decide once and for all if we can survive 3,5 more years* here or need to move now.

*school. So far almost all our decisions were guided by the fact that we value very highly the school our son is in. Almost to the level of stupidity, but hey, at least we acknowledge it. But at this point we are on the verge of demoting it to only second place.

@Viviennemary

Nobody starved during the war in Britain AFAIK. All this scaremongering is getting a bit ridiculous. It's what the EU is relying on to make us sign up to a rubbish deal. I'm really glad I voted out. I can live without wine and beer.

When ‘it’s not as bad as a war where over 300,000 Brits died’ has become the biggest selling point, you might want to rethink your proposal.

@HijadelaLuna, well if the spiteful EU blockade the UK then could trained piscine sub-surface transport fill the gap? I've seen drones deliver supplies to the Isles of Scilly?

It's good remain voters are being to develop some much-needed perspective.

What slogan does everyone think works best on t-shirts, mugs, double-decker buses and dog coats (as Rover is being targetted by the spiteful EU):

Keep calm and carry on, it's not like WW2 (yet);

Don't panic, it's not like the Black Death (probably 2/3 of the population won't die); or

Why does Chancellor Merkel hate me, mummy (dog sad face photo).

Better suggestions to bring the country together?

Regarding the headlines 'Gunboats in the Channel'. I know a sovereign nation can set sail in it's own English Channel without petty-fogging EU laws stopping us now and gunboats sound patriotic, dynamic and forceful but I do wonder whether the old name of 'Fishing escort vessels' sounds friendlier. Though could it sound a bit overcoat-y and seedy?

‘Nobody starved during the war in Britain’

Except the Chanel Islands. And at one point post war 1948 or so Britain was 2 days away from famine.Due to the war. And that is why Britain had to beg a loan from America which was only finally paid back in 2006.

Get your facts right

1946

Nobody starved is setting the bar rather low dont you think?

Zilla my mug message would be ‘Fuck Brexshit’🖕🏼

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow, but when you held and wrapped your fingers around that mug, it would probably read 'For Brexit'. I wonder if you're sub-consciously part of the coming together of this great project?