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Is there going to be lockdown part three in jan do you think ?

185 replies

Lardlizard · 06/12/2020 00:15

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emilybrontescorsett · 06/12/2020 11:01

We will definitely be in tiers, most of us tier 3.
Infections will soar once children are back at school after mixing with their friends and relatives over the Christmas period. I see groups of school children walking about together coming into my estate where they don't live, no doubt calling for yet another friend outside of their bubble. Their parents allow it yet would be the first to criticise school staff for doing the same.

Purplecatshopaholic · 06/12/2020 11:04

People seem to be falling over themselves to see people and mix far more than is sensible - I think January is going to be tough

emilybrontescorsett · 06/12/2020 11:04

We will be like this for a long time at least another 6 months most likely longer. The vaccine will not be available to the workforce for some time so infections will spread. Younger people and children will have to wait even longer so more infection spreading there.

PhilCornwall1 · 06/12/2020 11:07

@RosieLemonade

People on this website love lockdown. I think you would be happy to spend the rest of your life in it. Sacrifice the economy and people’s wellbeing to save the few.
I'd tend to agree with this.

One thread on here after the first lockdown ended was complaining that the majority of people didn't suffer enough during it and they had a "too middle class" lockdown. Weird if you ask me.

ceeveebee · 06/12/2020 11:09

@Ffsnosexallowed

"I think it depends on how quickly the vaccine rolls out. If as JVT says, this batch will eliminate 99% of hospitalisations and deaths then why lockdown even if cases do rise?"

Because no-one will be fully vaccinated before Christmas???

Not before Christmas no, but they will be before the cases start to rise 10 days or so after Christmas. And then it becomes very hard to justify a full lockdown if the risk of hospitalisation and death has dramatically reduced. Agree tier 3 will persist until spring (or at least, until February 3rd when the regulations expire and have to be voted back in)
Tomorrowisanotherdayyouknow · 06/12/2020 11:10

@LegoPirateMonkey

We’re in Tier 3. Fully half of my children’s primary are isolating due to popped bubbles in half the classes. I’ve had four days since the start of November with both my kids in school as they are on a constant round of going back, someone getting a positive test and the bubble pops again. It’s worse than lockdown because then whichever child’s bubble it is has to stay in and can’t go beyond the garden so we can’t even go for a walk except in shifts (difficult as my husband is out at work every day and it’s dark before and after so I feel pretty much housebound as well). They are both due back in school for the final week of term; I know there will be another positive case and at least one of them will be isolating over Christmas. It’s wildly out of control where we are.

But still, parents aren’t wearing masks or social distancing on the school run. The kids are playing out as normal when they’re supposed to isolate. It won’t stop spreading here and Christmas will make it so much worse.

I’m not putting anything in my diary for January and I’ve cleared my work schedule because I know I’ll be home schooling all month because as soon as they’re back in, the bubbles will start closing again all over the place.

So here, I can only see lockdown in practice even if not officially in name extending until February/March. It’s absolutely shit.

Wow sad that tier 3 are behaving like that, no chance of leaving tier 3 then
Roominmyhouse · 06/12/2020 11:18

@RosieLemonade

People on this website love lockdown. I think you would be happy to spend the rest of your life in it. Sacrifice the economy and people’s wellbeing to save the few.
Not at all. I’d love those lockdowns to be over, I want to get back to having a life!
ceeveebee · 06/12/2020 11:24

We are also tier 3, we have had only 1 case in school all term, everyone is extremely compliant with mask wearing etc. But we probably shouldn’t have been put in tier 3 anyway as it’s only because there are high rates elsewhere in the county, are rate is below 100 and low rates for over 60s too.

ceeveebee · 06/12/2020 11:27

I should say that’s primary school (but a large one, over 500 pupils).

BogRollBOGOF · 06/12/2020 11:27

Half my life-spirit has been kicked out of me. On a personal level, I'm rapidly ceasing to care or notice any fucking difference.

The only difference between tier 3 and "lockdown" to me personally is that my DCs are allowed to have hobbies and my outdoor classes are back.

We've been dumped in tier 3. Local cases were peaking before lockdown. There's a lot of white blobs on the map where cases are fewer than 3. Few dark blues/ purple hotspots in the region. And for this, the hospitality sector is being destroyed.

A slither of ms is still angry, but I'm mostly numb now. Just exist each day in a void of time until spring comes. A wasted year of existence.

bumblingbovine49 · 06/12/2020 11:30

Probably.

In Italy they have introduced really strict measures over Christmas and New Year. I know.becuae I have family there. They are going to have strict local travel restrictions over Christmas. She is unlikely to be able to visit her elderly grandfather whose wife died a few months ago over Christmas.

In the UK we generally have the opposite happening, certainly in England anyway ( I'm not up to date as to what is happening in Scotland, Wales and NI over Christmas). I am not saying we have it wrong here just that it may mean we have a tougher time in Jan/ Feb compared to some of the rest of Europe.

CremeEggThief · 06/12/2020 11:33

I think so. Since mid-September, I thought that they would have a national lockdown before Christmas (although it started a lot later than I thought), relax restrictions for Christmas and then lock down again before NYE, for January.

ceeveebee · 06/12/2020 11:38

I do think that more areas will be put into tier 3 on 16 December. Quite a few London boroughs are over the national average. But that is likely to drive more people to mix indoors at house parties particularly over new year (and even in tier 2, pubs close at 11pm so what do they think everyone will do, of course they will be going back to houses or drinking in the street in massive crowds)

MarshaBradyo · 06/12/2020 11:41

@bumblingbovine49

Probably.

In Italy they have introduced really strict measures over Christmas and New Year. I know.becuae I have family there. They are going to have strict local travel restrictions over Christmas. She is unlikely to be able to visit her elderly grandfather whose wife died a few months ago over Christmas.

In the UK we generally have the opposite happening, certainly in England anyway ( I'm not up to date as to what is happening in Scotland, Wales and NI over Christmas). I am not saying we have it wrong here just that it may mean we have a tougher time in Jan/ Feb compared to some of the rest of Europe.

I’d prefer this to further lockdown afterwards. Nothing anyone can do to change policy though. Depressing.
nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut · 06/12/2020 11:52

Yeah I think we'll be back in national lockdown in January while they start the vaccination program.

daisychain01 · 06/12/2020 12:01

How many people are going to abide by the rules at Christmas and New Year?

Nobody is paying attention to social distancing and mask wearing if the photos of Oxford Street yesterday rammed packed with people shoulder to shoulder is anything to go by.

I think this subject has been done to death, OP.

Do you even care what the answer is or are you just drumming up more frustration about it? Can't you see the big picture that when the vaccination program gathers pace it will all be a thing of the past in the next 6-12 months? What will you post about then .....

EssentialHummus · 06/12/2020 12:13

Yep, because there's going to be Brexit related chaos and covid/lockdown/xmas behaviour will be used as a convenient excuse, is my guess.

lynsey91 · 06/12/2020 13:16

@RosieLemonade

People on this website love lockdown. I think you would be happy to spend the rest of your life in it. Sacrifice the economy and people’s wellbeing to save the few.
Don't be so stupid. I doubt many people love lockdown. I don't but if people won't obey the rules and just act so selfishly then there is no choice.

We are tier 3 so can really do nothing. Oh of course we can shop but no way am I going to any shops that are full of people not wearing masks properly and not social distancing.

We went to a supermarket yesterday and it was awful. People with masks under their noses and so many not staying a distance away. One woman actually brushed my arm as she walked past me and another stood close to me as I was taking a loaf of bread off the shelf.

I never realised how many totally selfish idiots there are in the UK until this year

baubling · 06/12/2020 13:29

End of Jan for a month I reckon. Then another one in April, but timed to miss Easter this time.

Mintjulia · 06/12/2020 13:35

I hate lockdown Rosie, who doesn't? I want Xmas markets and carol singing and cosy evenings in the pub with my friends. I'd quite like not to be redundant!

But less contact means fewer people dying or suffering long term harm so I'll put my life on a slowburn until Easter.

Just take a deep breath and think of it as another quiet night in.

Sparklingbrook · 06/12/2020 13:40

Do you even care what the answer is or are you just drumming up more frustration about it?

OP hasn't been back to their own thread. I don't think they care that much. Confused

MargosKaftan · 06/12/2020 13:42

I'm really confused why anyone thinks we'll be locking down around March /April - we will have vaccinated the elderly, care home staff, care home residents, hospital staff and those of the vunerable who can have the vaccination. (As not all will be able to have it).

These are the people dying of covid and/or being admitted into hospital. (Or in the case of hospital staff, creating a hospital emergency by being too sick to work in large numbers).

If people aren't dying of covid or needing medical treatment for covid in large numbers anymore, does it matter how many people have it?

itsgettingweird · 06/12/2020 13:44

If people aren't dying of covid or needing medical treatment for covid in large numbers anymore, does it matter how many people have it?

I've wondered at what point they'll say it can spread freely or if they will?

The thing here that concerns me is that it spreading freely may increase viral load people get when they get it and that appears from what I've read to affect the severity of illness.

Coming out of this certainly isn't clear cut and I'd like to see the road map plan.

Mintjulia · 06/12/2020 13:49

I think the logistics of vaccination will mean we'll still be innoculating those in their 60s and 70s in March.

There are 3.2 million people over 80 in the UK. And they need two doses several weeks apart. GP's surgeries are brilliant but it's a major process.

ItsAlwaysSunnyOnMN · 06/12/2020 14:07

Its going to take months before there is enough people vaccinated to make some sort of difference to our everyday lives. And that is if it goes to plan

Thankfully in this country we the facilities In place to carry out mass vaccinations safely and keep track of who has been and when they shall need the booster but this task just isn’t comparable to another that has had to be carried out before

The government (not just here but in other countries too) should never have hinted by spring there shall be some sort of normality to our lives - this narrative seems to have been changed to we shall be living with restrictions way into 2021

Some may relish this many of us and I think most of us are absolutely fed up. In some ways I am pleased my life stuck to some sort of routine as I still went into work the other side of that has been the horrendous pressure and the extra work this situation has made to my day to day life working has had me at breaking point at times. I like many colleagues feel burnt out