AIBU just to be fucking happy there’s a vaccine?

[WouldBeGood]

Sick of all the continued moaning: oh, why can’t I get it?; oh, but it’s only 90% effective; etc etc.; oh selfish people will stop masks..

Just be happy! It’s great news. Life can resume.

Restaurants, galleries, parties, bars, dinner with friends, holidays: brilliant

@Sunshinegirl82
Even Pfizer admitted they don’t have enough data on it yet.

[quote Suzi888]@Sunshinegirl82
Even Pfizer admitted they don’t have enough data on it yet. [/quote]
Enough data on what? They've got enough data to submit it to the regulators for emergency approval, that's why they're publishing press releases about how well it works. They'll keep on gathering data after that though.

It’s effectiveness.
They have admitted it, I mean obviously all you budding scientists know better. they’ll keep on gathering data will they? I’d never have guessed....

@Suzi888

Well then it won't be approved will it? If there is insufficient data to licence it for emergency use it won't be licensed for emergency use.

I'm not a scientist which is why I said we should listen to, and take on board, the advice of those who know what they are talking about.

@Suzi888

It’s effectiveness. They have admitted it, I mean obviously all you budding scientists know better. they’ll keep on gathering data will they? I’d never have guessed....

I'm still not sure - what is it you think they don't have evidence of? Do you think they're 'admitting' that they don't have enough data to say whether it works, but they're going to submit it for approval anyway? Why would they do that, knowing it'll get rejected?

And they'll keep on gathering data even after it's submitted, even after it's approved, because that's a useful thing to do and will let us know more about how well it works. Not because they 'don't know' if it works at all.

@Sunshinegirl82 no I’m not arguing with you I agree with everything you say.

Great! I'm glad you agree!

@buttonmoonb4tea

I might be irrational but I'm scared to have it

So am I. I don't think it's irrational at all. There hasn't been enough time for this to be studied properly, I don't think.

And the 90% thing scares me too. How will vulnerable people know if they're in the 10% that didn't take up immunity? A 1 in 10 chance still isn't one I'd take, to be honest.

@LindaEllen

And the 90% thing scares me too. How will vulnerable people know if they're in the 10% that didn't take up immunity? A 1 in 10 chance still isn't one I'd take, to be honest

How is it better not to have the vaccine and probably have no immunity at all?

YANBU, it means the end is in sight, but like Van Tam and others said, we need to stick with the measures to keep infection rates down in the meantime.

They have enough vaccine doses to vaccinate 20 million people - that should cover all NHS staff, care workers and vulnerable/elderly groups, plus perhaps a few million in others. If those 20m are all vaccinated by late spring, next summer is going to look very different. Also, other vaccines are being developed, and I think that once more doses are available people might have the option of paying to be vaccinated, if they can afford it. For instance, people who want to travel abroad might opt to go private.

It's right to be cautious, but this news is a much needed ray of hope.

@LindaEllen sorry but I do not see your logic at all. You wouldn't take your chances on 90%?! You'd rather 0%?!

And for everyone saying it is rushed. OF COURSE IT IS! We are in the middle of a global pandemic in case you hadn't noticed?! We are in our second national lockdown, millions have died, economies ground to a halt, recessions across the globe. Of course it is being rushed!! Would you rather they sat on their arses and did nothing?!

All that means is that people have a vested interest in this being solved quickly. Other drugs and vaccines take longer because there isn't the investment or the backing or the interest in them to companies hedge their bets and spread their wealth. Every pharmaceutical company in the world wants to be the one that beats COVID. There is massive motivation for them, they are guaranteed to get orders so they NEED to move quickly and they NEED to get it right. Its not that corners are being cut, or that stages are being missed. It's just being done faster than before because they have a reason to go fast.

I won't even qualify for a vaccine but I am overjoyed. I understand this is our best chance of herd immunity and the fact that 20 million adults vaccinated with a 90%+ success rate is a damn better position to be in than we are now.

I read this thread title and OP and thought "this will be absolutely pounced on by the arseholes who cruise MN looking for signs of hope to extinguish". I didn't have to wait long for them to emerge

@inuet it didn’t.

I started it because I was so sick of all the negativity, and then the “me first!”

But there are some great posters on here too 😊

For those who are saying 'there isn't people who like lockdown, what rubbish' and so forth, there is! I work in an area of the NHS where I have spoken to people who find lock down an easier way of life and are nervous for when we get a vaccine. Some people do feel more comfortable with this way of living.

I however, bloody hate it and can't wait for the vaccine

@zen1

Even if the vaccine is (eventually) rolled out, they were still only talking about it allowing us to return to a ‘new normal’ and that they don’t know yet whether it will reduce transmission. It could be years before it’s decided we no longer have to wear masks / socially distance.

Yer I can really see people not having dates /not hugging etc for years get a grip

For those who are saying 'there isn't people who like lockdown, what rubbish' and so forth, there is! I work in an area of the NHS where I have spoken to people who find lock down an easier way of life and are nervous for when we get a vaccine. Some people do feel more comfortable with this way of living. **

A ridiculous theory if ever I heard one. People like living like this? They like social distancing? They like wearing masks? They like shops and businesses being closed? They like people in care homes not being able to see loved ones?They like seeing millions of jobs going, that will go? Who do they think pays for the NHS?
If people are happy to live like hermits in a bubble , fine , let them.
However I fucking well don’t and want to go back to normal.

Yer I can really see people not having dates /not hugging etc for years get a grip

I think restrictions on things like gatherings/weddings/conferences might remain for a while. Plus guidance on distancing.

There's a big grey area between how we are now and how we lived in 2019.

I am so wanting to go to the theatre!!!!

Some bits of the "new normal" are for many people welcome, though. Not masks, of course. But two of my colleagues texted me and said "thank god there's a vaccine on the horizon - but I really hope it doesn't mean we have to go back into the office full time".

@YukoandHiro

Some bits of the "new normal" are for many people welcome, though. Not masks, of course. But two of my colleagues texted me and said "thank god there's a vaccine on the horizon - but I really hope it doesn't mean we have to go back into the office full time".

I personally don't want to go back to shaking hands! I avoided as much as possible anyway. Bleurgh!

@Sunshinegirl82clearly being sarcastic
It’s ok to have different opinions.

@Hearwego I completely agree and hate this way of living. But those people exist trust me!

[quote blankiesandunicorns]@Hearwego I completely agree and hate this way of living. But those people exist trust me! [/quote]
I trust you!

There was a thread recently asking whose life was better than pre-lockdown. It had many responses from those who said theirs was. Plus, you'll see so many posts fom those 'enjoying the quieter pace of life', even though in many cases there was little stopping them having such a lifestyle pre-lockdown.

Quite a few people are happy with at least some aspects of the current situation.

'And the 90% thing scares me too. How will vulnerable people know if they're in the 10% that didn't take up immunity? A 1 in 10 chance still isn't one I'd take, to be honest.'

It's this kind of insanely poor logic that makes me despair.
Please engage brains people.

What are the chances of being back to normal by next summer?
I actually want to physically go to my child’s parents evenings, take my kids to a pantomime, take my kids abroad,see my grandmother and not social distance or wear a mask...
Can I have these things back?

@Hearwego things should get back to normal pretty soon once the elderly are vaccinated, I reckon. It will then just be like the flu where the general populace must take their chances