To think this time loads of people are not going to comply

[FloMillie]

Been speaking to family and friends and the general mood appears to be that this time round is different.

Most people say they are going to break the covid rules. Obviously they can’t go out to restaurants or stuff but they said they will have friends and family round.

I think people and govt may be overestimating compliance this time around.

Could we be left with an ineffective lockdown that only serves to further damage the economy?

I’ll be complying and so will my family members. If you don’t comply then it’s like all the negative side effects of lockdown are for nothing because it won’t be effective in stopping the spread of the virus but businesses will still go under etc. So it’s doubly selfish not to comply imo.

Most people say they are going to break the covid rules. Obviously they can’t go out to restaurants or stuff but they said they will have friends and family round.

Well, fuck them. Seriously, fuck them.

but frankly after that I think we are heading towards mass protests

Mass protests, in December? I don't see it, tbh. Our bloody awful winter weather tends to cool the marching spirit.

I won’t be complying. I’m on the verge of losing my job and my house because of this shit. I’m not going to give up my freedom for a virus that kills about 1% of people who catch it.

more businesses and jobs will go the longer people like you refuse to do the morally right thing.

I’m on the brink of losing my job and my home - I’ve nothing left to live for. 1% of people who catch this shitty virus die and yet my family and I could end up on the streets with nothing. Guess what, we and millions of others in our position are fucking vulnerable too.

I can't stand the thought of another lockdown and I'm pissed off and really worried for the livelyhood of all of all of the people that will be furloughed again but I'm not going to break the rules no matter how much I may want to!

I just want this all over and done with and I hope to God that if enough people comply now that next year will look alot more normal than this year.

I do wish though that they'd thought about allowing places to stay open but stopped the selling of alcohol,even just for a while I think it could make a huge difference,just look at the scenes online of droves of people all coming out of the pubs and then carrying on paryting in the roads and streets outside them,social distancing goes out of the window for alot of people(not all but it only takes a few that are ill and don't realize it for it to spread to many)if they're drunk or tipsy.

That and having some members of staff using the hand held scanners(no idea of they're proper name,sorry)to take peoples temperatures,I know not everyone may have a temperature and be ill but some will and just stopping those few from entering could mean that places could stay open without a massive surge

As it is happening I'm going to have to drag my disabled body around lots of shops before Thursday to get lots of my Christmas shopping done because not everywhere has an online presence and I know town will be too packed for me in December.

To any who's jobs may be threatened,I hope things don't go that way,to those who are struggling because of not being able to see friends/family or because of anxiety which covid is no doubt making alot worse I hope you all get through it ok

@IHTC

In all honesty, I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who intends to comply and I absolutely don't blame them. I only see people pro restrictions/lockdown on the Internet 🤔

Same here 🤷‍♀️

This is the sort of attitude that disgusts me and makes me wonder why I waste my life in healthcare

I suggest you don’t bother “wasting your life” in healthcare any longer, given your complete lack of empathy.

To any who's jobs may be threatened,I hope things don't go that way

Thanks but it’s too late for me. I and my family are Covid collateral and people like @ProudAuntie76 don’t give a shit.

Because of people like you too selfish and narcissistic to stay the fuck home

Did you read what the poster wrote? They are in the verge of losing their home!

By not complying its not going to get businesses back open and running any sooner is it? Regardless of our thoughts on whether it's right or wrong the government have us over a barrel at the moment.
We can revolt rant and riot all we want but ultimately they hold the cards.

What things are people who intend to resist the restrictions actually intending to do to mark their non compliace?

Is it meeting up with friends in their homes or are you going to open up your non- essential shop? What's the plan?

I'm so sorry Lostallhope77 If someone had told me in 2019 that we would all be facing this I wouldn't have believed them it does most days feel like were all living through some sadistic horrendous horror movie at the moment,if only it was only a movie.

I hope things get alot better for you and your family.

Thank you @ohtheholidays - I’m struggling to see the point in carrying on today.

@lostallhope77

This is the sort of attitude that disgusts me and makes me wonder why I waste my life in healthcare

I suggest you don’t bother “wasting your life” in healthcare any longer, given your complete lack of empathy.

I have buckets of empathy thanks but by people like you not complying tens of thousands of more lives WILL be lost and you are guaranteeing MORE people will lose their jobs and homes.

How is not complying going to improve jobs and housing?

I have buckets of empathy thanks

@ProudAuntie76 Read your first post to me. You don’t even know the meaning of the word.

And as another poster pointed out, how am I meant to “stay the fuck home” (your words) when I soon won’t even have one?

@lostallhope77 whilst I agree it’s morally wrong not to comply, you do seem to be desperate and in a worrying mindset. I think you do NEED to comply for the sake of everyone, including yourself.

Is there anyway you could find a temporary job in the meantime? They are out there, even in my field which is quite rare. I’ve been looking due to an income drop. There are loads of jobs for supermarket shifts, care work, cover supervising or TAs in school, tutoring over zoom, agency work, courier and delivery work, cleaning etc. Deaths are permanent. Careers can be reestablished, you might just have to reshuffle things a bit temporarily. My friend and his partner lost their hospitality jobs in the last lockdown (got one quite quickly in care) but his landlord agreed to waive 4 months rent when he initially lost his job and had a long wait for universal credit. Other self employed friends managed to arrange mortgage breaks when their industry disappeared overnight. Try and sit down and make a list of every possible income avenue and saving or hardship assistance. There are lots of charities and advice groups on debt, unemployment etc. I get that it’s hard but please do try to comply.

I think compliance will naturally be lower this time. I don’t see how it would be higher at this stage put it that way.

If you’re asked to do something once & there aren’t immediately apparent tangible benefits (an NHS half opened isn’t a benefit, even though I realise it fully closed as a consequence of people ceasing to give a fuck wouldn’t be a benefit either) then I think it’s reasonable to assume a significant minority of people will be inclined to exclaim ‘ah, fuck it’.

...and of course that minority is all it needs to keep spreading if you believe in the likes of super spreaders.

HottoCold - wondering if you are just trolling. But if not, how about anyone at fault in a car accident gets no treatment?

Some people will not be able to follow every Covid rule for their own mental health. Mental illness is real and dismissing it as less relevant than Covid highlights a lack of education.

I know a lot of people who complied to the letter last time round who are not going to go mad this time but are not going to bust a gut to comply to the letter.

In closing down all the covid safe environments we could previously at least see other human beings in (even if we couldn't mix latterly), the government is going to drive social mixing into private houses, which they say is one of the worst environments for the spread of disease. It is impossible for Plod to visit every house every day and while a big party might be obvious, someone visiting their elderly parents won't be.

I won't be complying. Once again bereaved families have been ignored. Being told to keep apart and not mix with each other after the death of a loved one is cruel. We lost mum at the end of March and we lost Dad at the weekend. I will be meeting up with my sister's in their homes and they in mine even though, because now we are no longer caring for someone at the end of life, we are now not allowed to do so. The hurt and disbelief won't suddenly disappear the day after dad's funeral and to expect us to only see each other 1 at a time outside for however long this lock down is going to carry on for is too much to ask.

I will be continuing to see my Dad for the sake of my mental health (thank god for support bubbles) but will be complying. Because if we aren't out of this soon, I fear what I might do to myself. I'm starting to have suicidal thoughts again like last time.

@lostallhope77

more businesses and jobs will go the longer people like you refuse to do the morally right thing.

I’m on the brink of losing my job and my home - I’ve nothing left to live for. 1% of people who catch this shitty virus die and yet my family and I could end up on the streets with nothing. Guess what, we and millions of others in our position are fucking vulnerable too.

I’m sorry this has happened to you but do you think that you not complying with the restrictions will help you keep your job or home? I can understand being against the principle of having another lockdown, but I just don’t see how it will help people to ignore the fact that it’s happening. Like I said in my previous comment, going about as normal and spreading the virus instead of staying away from people and suppressing it means that the lockdown was a waste and the sad impact on you and others will have been for no benefit due to people not complying.