Should we submit to the lockdown or fight back?

[pontypridd]

Just this.

I feel scared writing it. I know I'll be flamed.

But how long can people live like this for? I've lost so many family over the years - my mum too when I was young. We all get sick and die.

We can't lock up the whole world because of Covid. Are we just all going to submit? Or do we, should we fight for our freedom?

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[friendlycat]

God there are some stupid people on this planet. How are you going to fight a virus? Get your sword out?

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God there are some stupid people on this planet.
That is so true. Its bloody stupidity of people that got us to this point.

[BlackPetunia]

Hey where’s all the fighters?

We want to know what you will do? Come on, what’s the plan here......

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@friendlycat That made me laugh! Thank you!

[Mondaymanic]

I honestly can't believe the bullshit that I'm reading. People are morons. And I don't mean you OP

[BigBigPumpkin]

@friendlycat

God there are some stupid people on this planet. How are you going to fight a virus? Get your sword out?

I imagine by fighting back, OP is referring to protesting and civil disobedience. Come on guys, I know it's late but it doesn't take a genius to establish that OP is unlikely to be suggesting a roundhouse kick to COVID.

[pontypridd]

It’s not going to be just 4 weeks.

By fighting I mean protest. We are all taking this lying down. As someone said up thread.

It’s important we ensure any restrictions are proportionate, democratically accountable and achieving what they set out to because they are the biggest threat to civil liberties in several generations. Anyone who doesn’t take that very seriously is sleepwalking

[BlackPetunia]

Protest?

Like a group meeting with placards in Trafalgar Square kind of thing?

[Iheartmysmart]

The OP didn’t say fight the virus but fight for our freedom. I agree. We are too willingly handing over our livelihoods and freedoms to a Government who don’t deem it necessary to follow their own rules and who are yet to give a coherent reply to what their aim is and what their plans are to get us out of the mess they’ve created.

[HazeyJaneII]

So let me get this straight you aren't talking about protesting against a government who has utterly shited this up from the very beginning through lies, neglect corruption and stupidity.
You are talking about protesting against the fact of having to lockdown to prevent further spread of Covid?
And you want yo do this by organising a march?

[pontypridd]

No. Sorry. I forgot. We don’t protest in the U.K. Not enough of us to ever make a difference.

We carry on passively and laugh at those that do have enough of a brain to question anything.

I don’t think anyone will be laughing at the end of this.

[BlackPetunia]

@HazeyJaneII nah surely not!!

Nobody would be that stupid would they? I mean, it will just spread the virus more ...

[BanditoShipman]

@m0therofdragons

Okay, I really need a mn break. I can’t deal with the level of idiocy. It’s not just about you dying it’s about putting doctors in a position where they would have to play God and choose who gets a ventilator and who doesn’t, then they have to live with that trauma. No doctor wants to make that call ever. So fighting back actually means behaving like a self absorbed selfish prick.

Well bloody said. The level of thick on here seems to have shot up

[pontypridd]

you aren't talking about protesting against a government who has utterly shited this up from the very beginning through lies, neglect corruption and stupidity

Yes of course.

[Bitbusyattheminute]

Oh, I know! I know!!!

Go to a Halloween party with all your late teen mates and post it on fb. No one will comment, cos you know, kids have had it tough and why shouldn't they be able to let off some steam?

[BlackPetunia]

Not enough of us to make a difference??

Funny how we are the 9th highest country in the world for covid cases and something like 5th for deaths ( last time I checked)

Seems to be enough of us contracting this

[Quaagars]

I don't get your thinking.
I mean, yes I can see where you're coming from wanting to fight back against freedoms, nobody wants all this shit.
How do you suggest fighting back against a virus though?
Surely we need to contain it, curb it but no we can't keep locking down forever.
Not sure what the solution is but it's not just a case of going out fighting, it's a virus ffs

[Quaagars]

@BlackPetunia

Protest?

Like a group meeting with placards in Trafalgar Square kind of thing?

Now got images of "Down With This Kind of Thing" placards lol

[Wales34]

@pontypridd

Just this.

I feel scared writing it. I know I'll be flamed.

But how long can people live like this for? I've lost so many family over the years - my mum too when I was young. We all get sick and die.

We can't lock up the whole world because of Covid. Are we just all going to submit? Or do we, should we fight for our freedom?

Pontypridd didn't you just put out another post about bring allowed to go on holiday? Perhaps that is why you want to fight against it ? Also, if you are in Wales we are currently in lockdown , ending nect Monday

[YourWinter]

Lockdown isn't about 'stopping' the virus, it's to try to keep hospital admissions and intensive care stays to a number the hospitals can manage. 'Protect the NHS' means that. We are so, so lucky in the UK to have grown up reasonably confident that if we need hospital treatment we will get it.

Boris Johnson made the very clear point that if there are more patients needing treatment than our hospitals can deal with, doctors will be making decisions as to who gets admitted, who stays in their ICU bed, who gets oxygen, who gets care, and who dies.

Presumably if you and the rest of the "It's not fair" brigade are injured while you're fighting back about this terrible infringement of your liberty, you won't mind being denied a hospital bed?

[LemonTT]

There are protests, in London with a Corbin and everything. Just join them. Seem like a nice bunch of people who will introduce you to interesting ideas. Maybe Qlight for the moment seeing as you haven’t yet been able to find the much publicised protests.

[HazeyJaneII]

No I genuinely think the government should be held to account for their mishandling of the pandemic in the UK.
And I have been on plenty of protests, and involved in campaigns, I dont think I am apathetic.
However most of the talk I have seen on Twitter etc about protests since the announcement of this lockdown has been of the anti masker, anti any form of lockdown, Covid denying, herd immunity loving type of thing.

I just wasn't sure what specifically you would be protesting about.

[MargotMoon]

@pontypridd

No. Sorry. I forgot. We don’t protest in the U.K. Not enough of us to ever make a difference.

We carry on passively and laugh at those that do have enough of a brain to question anything.

I don’t think anyone will be laughing at the end of this.

Speak for yourself. I've been on many marches and protests in the last 30 years. But this is not the time to take to the streets, it's a time to protect each other. Save your ire for the next election, and don't have a short memory of the shit-show incompetence of this government

[friendlycat]

At the end of the day there just are no easy answers. There is not a democratic country in the world that has resolved this situation so far. Literally every country in the World is struggling with it. We may be an island but we’ve got the same problems as the rest of them.

Even countries that literally do rule by oppression and dictatorship have not eradicated the virus yet. And blimey they’ve had much, much stricter restrictions with ruled compliance.