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Soo.... England circuit breaker?

230 replies

BabyLlamaZen · 19/10/2020 16:37

Will we follow Wales? I'm pretty sure we will at one point, jusr want to know when!!

Is half term next week for most English kids?

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HesterShaw1 · 19/10/2020 18:31

@CousinLucy

Might be helpful. I'm in Cornwall and I've lost count of the Radio 2 Breakfast Show listeners ringing up and saying they're having a 'much needed' break in Cornwall. We've overcome the infection since August, numbers were decreasing and now it starts again.... 🙄 Stay where you are! Or at worst don't visit three service stations on the way down...
There was hardly any virus in Cornwall from the outset. Or at least, not enough to make a significant number of people ill.

We didn't "overcome" anything.

And if people had "stayed where they were" over the summer, there would be an awful lot of families who would be financially utterly screwed.

Sarahandco · 19/10/2020 18:32

Nah!

KINGF1SHER · 19/10/2020 18:32

Not now Burnham has been offered £100million - why would Boris do that if a national lockdown was on the cards anyway?

randomer · 19/10/2020 18:33

to revell, you must be completely sick in the head tbh.

I think it might be worth a go, not just shut everything but use the time wisely.
Come up with better track and trace. Give us some HOPE.

Fivemoreminutes1 · 19/10/2020 18:34

If I were in charge, I’d do a circuit breaker over the Christmas holidays, and have all schools closed a week before currently scheduled. That last week of term is often a write-off with kids being over excited, and it’s not like they’re able to do all the nativity plays, carol services and parties! Also, three weeks off is likely to have a greater effect than two.

randomer · 19/10/2020 18:35

Stay where you are!

With pleasure, enjoy your fishing and er....what else is there please? farming?

SheepandCow · 19/10/2020 18:36

The government can't stop people travelling out of tier 3 areas to places with lower numbers of cases. Certainly they can't whilst they airports are open for unrestricted travel.

Also all anyone from Liverpool, Manchester, and London needs to do is get together as a campaign group, head off to wherever it is they want to go to (Cornwall, Dorset, Oxfordshire, etc) and say they're there to have a protest (about whatever cause they've decided to protest about).

AlwaysLatte · 19/10/2020 18:43

I think given this government's inability to plan ahead that numbers will go down due to half term, then a circuit breaker will be needed as a reaction a couple of weeks after HT. - also to get the numbers down before Christmas when they WILL go up judging by the number of idiots saying they won't be following the rules over Christmas.

IndecentFeminist · 19/10/2020 18:44

Isle of Wight here...we feel your pain SW and others. Luckily we have extortionate ferries to put a few people off 🙄

I'm being a bit tongue in cheek there, I have no issue with tourists coming, and like busy season etc but it is a little nerve wracking...we have very low numbers right now.

OneForMeToo · 19/10/2020 18:46

The local residents clearly don’t have a welcome attitude to the visitors that help fund the area and keep so many in jobs.

Makes me glad I never booked holidays there I’ll stick to wales, Norfolk and Dorset where people are actually friendly.

OrangeSamphire · 19/10/2020 18:47

@randomer it's true that some tourism businesses in Cornwall will be pleased if the season extends into half term.

Some, though, are ending their seasons early because they don't want to encourage situations that could be problematic with covid.

Also, for anyone in any doubt that there are other industries in Cornwall, there really are plenty! Tourism is a noticeable one but dependency is a myth. Also, over-tourism has been very damaging to parts of the county. That's why things get so heated and polarised whenever it's discussed.

Soo.... England circuit breaker?
megletthesecond · 19/10/2020 18:48

I hope so.
Better to nip it in the bud now.
After this Friday we'll be lying low for half term. Collection only shopping, no karate, lots of walks joy.

Sillysop92 · 19/10/2020 18:49

I’ve a UK holiday booked for next week, I hope the lockdown doesn’t come. Booked before March and much longed and worked for! 🥂🥂

Sillysop92 · 19/10/2020 18:50

Holiday is in England, but not Cornwall 😉

Echobelly · 19/10/2020 18:51

I'm potentially for it, but if you're going to call ti a circuit breaker it has to go on for no longer than stated, but then I don't know what you do if cases are still rising.

But either way I'm afraid I don't see how we can make much difference without shutting pretty much everything down for 4 weeks + at this stage (primary schools I think might be able to stay open as the evidence seems to be pretty clear that young kids don't infect one another). While pubs and restaurants are open people will, totally understandably, not see why they shouldn't go to one another's houses.

I wonder if it might just be best to prepare for a hard lockdown after Christmas, if not before, to keep people the hell apart for a bit seeing as I don't think anyone will be able to stop the Xmas juggernaut. I don't actually celebrate Christmas, but I can imagine why a lot of people won't swear off seeing family over that time.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 19/10/2020 18:51

I'd rather lock down a week or two before the school Christmas holidays. Or a week before and a week after.

myrtilles · 19/10/2020 18:51

People came to Cornwall all summer and your cases didn’t rise.

HesterShaw1 · 19/10/2020 18:52

@OneForMeToo

The local residents clearly don’t have a welcome attitude to the visitors that help fund the area and keep so many in jobs.

Makes me glad I never booked holidays there I’ll stick to wales, Norfolk and Dorset where people are actually friendly.

I'm really sorry about some of the ignorant attitudes displayed on here by some of the posters in Cornwall.

Can I just say we are not all like that at all. Some of us actually realise that while this summer saw the highest numbers of tourists we had ever seen, Covid infections remained at almost none and there were NO Covid related deaths for weeks.

HesterShaw1 · 19/10/2020 18:53

X posted with @myrtilles

OrangeSamphire · 19/10/2020 18:56

Cornish businesses seemed to be very well prepared in general for the summer and covid safe practices were spot on.

I do wonder if we can pull off getting through October half term tourism with the same zero impact on covid we saw in the summer though. With people more inclined to go to indoor venues in windier, wetter weather.

Pixxie7 · 19/10/2020 18:58

I think it’s probably inevitable.

OrangeSamphire · 19/10/2020 18:59

Also we'd had a long period of national lockdown prior to tourism opening up in July. This time, we haven't had that.

So unfortunately much more (maybe asymptomatic) covid probably about that could mean we see an impact this time.

TheoneandObi · 19/10/2020 19:00

Cooooeee Cornish bird here. And I personally welcomed visitors in the summer and don't believe they adversely affected our rates if infection. Crikey some Cornish folk travelled up country and could just as easily have brought the virus home as a souvenir!

CallmeAngelina · 19/10/2020 19:02

But it's not a circuit-breaker. Wales have left primary schools and Yrs 7 & 8 open, so it's a complete and utter waste of time.
If England follows suit in the same half-arsed way, we will also send multiple businesses to the wall for nothing.

Torvean32 · 19/10/2020 19:04

So Scotland is in a 16 day circuit break because of high cases in the central belt. Even in very low case areas there's restrictions.
N.I is on some form of restrictions and Wales is locked down.
BoJo looks very incompetetent right now.