New rules Monday.

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Looks like England may be following Scotland. Or parts of England? Or new levels to be announced!? Who knows...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54457377

You want to stop treatment for cancer patients?

@JamSarnie

I've yet to see a supermarket that has one, and I've certainly never heard of this being advised.

If you look on the government site it gives you a list of places that need a QR code.

I only looked at the list for England and you do not need one for supermarkets.

It's for things like cafes, restaurants, hairdressers etc.
M & S food halls have them.

[quote Itsabeautifuldayheyhey]**@JamSarnie

I've yet to see a supermarket that has one, and I've certainly never heard of this being advised.

If you look on the government site it gives you a list of places that need a QR code.

I only looked at the list for England and you do not need one for supermarkets.

It's for things like cafes, restaurants, hairdressers etc.
M & S food halls have them.[/quote]
There isn't anything to stop supermarkets having one but they don't have to legally unlike those listed according to this article.

faq.covid19.nhs.uk/article/KA-01183/en-us?parentid=CAT-01043&rootid=CAT-01027

@bellinisurge

I am so fucking sick of government by leak on this.
Fucked up track and trace system. No furlough
"Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, is expected to focus his latest package of support on businesses such as pubs and restaurants forced to close — or partially close — by new restrictions."
www.ft.com/content/50793eb6-3e43-40f6-a5a4-754af5f335ea

It's only Northerners so it doesn't count.
According to an article in The Sun today there are many areas of the country in the red tier (tier 3). It lists all areas with an infection rate above 50 per 100,000 in that tier and I can't see that they will only close pubs and restaurants in the North. I think it will apply to all areas in tier 3.
www.thesun.co.uk/news/12877052/lockdown-tier-england-coronvirus-risk-areas/

Why Monday?

If pubs and hospitality is such an issue that they have to close them down, why allow people another Friday/Saturday night to go and get hammered one last time? They always do this.

Why Monday?

If pubs and hospitality is such an issue that they have to close them down, why allow people another Friday/Saturday night to go and get hammered one last time? They always do this
I totally agree.
The Govt met yesterday and I think the announcement was originally expected today but MPs have been fighting over it. I assume someone who is against further restrictive measures has leaked this to the press to stir up the public.

@JamSarnie
Thanks for that link. Not sure exactly how it works but, as we don't have to clock out of places, I assume everyone would be isolating if they had to be used in supermarkets.

Why Monday?
The announcement is expected on Monday to take effect from Wednesday!

I agree this is sure to lead to a weekend of partying.

Do we know what the three tiers will be? I have seen articles with Tier 1 at less than 100 cases per 100,000, but others class tier 1 as less than 20 cases per 100,000. Which is correct?

@Chaotic45

Grouping schools and universities isn't very helpful. I suspect a huge proportion of transmission is at universities compared to schools.

There has been mass testing in universities, there hasn't in schools. Doubt they'd dare. The only numbers we see are the symptomatic children and staff, and they're bad enough. The asymptomatic cases are dwarfing the symptomatic the younger you are.

The chunk of outbreaks in education is high, and it isn't split out between schools and universities, but these figures rose considerably as soon as schools went back and before universities did. Many posters were keen to explain it away as a lag from eat out to help out. As there's been mass testing in the dorms they can't explain the figures away so easily.

Racoonworld when I tried to google that the sun produced a chart with tier 3 at 50 in 100000 cases! Obvioulsy a lot of "red". I suspect they don't know so places like the sun make it up.

Oh which a beautiful day has already posted up above! D'oh. I'm catching up with my own thread...!

The BBC have shared this slide from a meeting suggetsing where the risk lies. Theyve obviously not put schools/uni on there..

I'm surprised supermarkets is so high in their list. We're currently avoiding them but I still thought you weren't likely to be within 2meters for 15minutes in them?

Oh and this one. Suggests tier 2 at 100 per 100000 and then tier 3 above that (not surprisingly different to the Sun..)

@PineappleUpsideDownCake

I'm surprised supermarkets is so high in their list. We're currently avoiding them but I still thought you weren't likely to be within 2meters for 15minutes in them?
I'm absolutely not surprised , if you've not been recently I'd avoid .
Yes some you can but in my experience people have got lax with social distancing. It's like they think the mask protects you .
And the other sunday Asda was rammed and there was a member of staff at the entrance making sure everyone stopped to put sanitiser on . So cram the people in like sardines is ok as long as we wear a mask and put sanitiser on . I get in and out as quickly as possible .

Ah yes that is different to how I imagined!!! I thought it was one way and limited numbers.

I had thought it was supposed to be minimal risk unless you were in someones air for 15mins. I guess lots of people on emclosed building makes that more risky.

We will continue with supermarket deliveries!!!!

@annabel85

Completely agree - by Monday those hideous daily infection numbers will be 20,000 plus - goodness knows what the R rate is now in the North West where I am.

It was also said in recent days that Track and Trace were reaching 67% instead of its target of 80%

But hey ho 'We're all in it together' ....

It may just be where I live but it's no surprise it's one of the highest infection areas in the country .

Our local big supermarket seems fine.