Oh god. Back to having a walk then???

[ssd]

As the highlight of the day.

AKA another lockdown looms....

[Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd]

Fuck that. Fuck not seeing friends and family in your own home. Fuck 'social distancing'. Just don't do it. They don't have the power to enforce these stupid lockdowns that just kick the can down the road.

[Dustballs]

Hmmm - It makes it a bit better to read it's not only me RTB.

I feel the same.

Do you think they'd really do another lockdown? A long one again? How could they afford to?

[MissSmiley]

Misread that thread title as "Back to having a wank then??"

I did too

[SchadenfreudePersonified]

@Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd

Fuck that. Fuck not seeing friends and family in your own home. Fuck 'social distancing'. Just don't do it. They don't have the power to enforce these stupid lockdowns that just kick the can down the road.

And this is the attitude that causes an increase in infection.

[flourbroach]

@TheMurk

They need to break us properly through the winter so that come the new year they can offer a chink of light and - oh look, hope in a syringe!

It’s so blatant.

If you think there's method in their madness, then it's pretty unlikely.

Let's be honest, if you wanted a piss-up in a brewery, would you get the Tories to organise it?

[Tolleshunt]

And without the sense of coming into Summer, and knowing there'll be light and sunshine and opportunities for some kind of pleasure and socialising outside.

Now, we have a UK winter to look forward to, grey skies, rain, short days, long dark nights. Even a boring fucking walk to all the same places for the 1,000th time in the spring and summer will seem like it was a treat, compared to trudging though wind and rain and sleet. Where's the pleasure in that? Or in standing outside trying to speak to someone 2m away in a knifing Arctic wind?

No trick or treating, no fireworks, no Christmas parties, will we even be able to see family at Christmas?

I could cry.

[TheMurk]

@flourbroach I don’t think the Tories are running this show.

[TheABC]

I am working on the basis that this be as good as it gets for the immediate future.

[Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd]

Infections are rising because people are doing what people do: live in a society. Lockdowns just delay the inevitable. The virus is going nowhere. Life has to go on and not under lockdowns.

[Mrslafayette]

I really miss hugging. So much. It's all bullshit.

[Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd]

@Tolleshunt

And without the sense of coming into Summer, and knowing there'll be light and sunshine and opportunities for some kind of pleasure and socialising outside.

Now, we have a UK winter to look forward to, grey skies, rain, short days, long dark nights. Even a boring fucking walk to all the same places for the 1,000th time in the spring and summer will seem like it was a treat, compared to trudging though wind and rain and sleet. Where's the pleasure in that? Or in standing outside trying to speak to someone 2m away in a knifing Arctic wind?

No trick or treating, no fireworks, no Christmas parties, will we even be able to see family at Christmas?

I could cry.

And no deal Brexit.

[HeIenaDove]

I only ever go to ONE other household.......................my parents house.

[Carycy]

I am starting to think fuck the rules. If it leads to an increase in infections then fine. It’s just ripping the plaster off faster. Good.

[middleager]

I'm already on local.lockdown.
I know many people not complying. Some don't even know the 'rules' anyway.
It's a farce. Football games OK but women labouring alone...

[RedToothBrush]

@Dustballs

Hmmm - It makes it a bit better to read it's not only me RTB.

I feel the same.

Do you think they'd really do another lockdown? A long one again? How could they afford to?

Yes.

Because there isn't an alternative which is viable.

Everyone getting sick at the same time has massive economic and political ramifications. Everything would stop in an 'anarchy' kind of way.

Reading up on the consequences of previous, albeit less serious, pandemics is sobering. But you have to also factor in how reliant on supply chains and how unselfsufficient we are to understand how even a 'minor pandemic' is as disruptive to modern society as a major one would have been.

[Dustballs]

Who do you think is running this show @TheMurk?

[TheMurk]

People with money invested that are paying the salaries of the people telling us what to do.

[Dustballs]

I am starting to think fuck the rules. If it leads to an increase in infections then fine. It’s just ripping the plaster off faster. Good.

I never ever thought I'd say this or even think something like this - but now I do.

[TheMurk]

I don’t think Boris and Matt are in charge any more than Whitty or any of them.

But they are influenced heavily in this (as in any politics) by very rich people with a vested interest (and possibly shares in Perspex and hand gel).

[Redolent]

@Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd

Fuck that. Fuck not seeing friends and family in your own home. Fuck 'social distancing'. Just don't do it. They don't have the power to enforce these stupid lockdowns that just kick the can down the road.

Fuck seeing a tsunami of people coming into ICU, lungs on the brink of collapse. Fuck the masks and exhaustion and constant sweatiness of 12 hour shifts. Fuck the constant staff sickness, self-isolation and fear. Fuck phoning families to tell them that their loved ones are dying but they can’t see them. Fuck the wards full of unconscious patients, the sight of ventilators being switched off.

Fuck all of it. Why do NHS staff have to go through that? For who - for you?

[Dustballs]

Oh well - I'll prepare myself for a second lockdown then. Thank you RTB

The Murk - I still don't understand - but thank you for trying to explain.

[Ranunculi]

It’s just ripping the plaster off faster
That will involve the breakdown of essential services because too many people will get sick at once. The electric and internet will go off. Possibly the water too. Shelves will be empty because food hasn’t been delivered. Emergency services will be unavailable. People will panic and there will be anarchy. We need to keep infections at a level that allows society to keep running.

[Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd]

Spare the guilt trips, Redolent. They don't work on people anymore. Nor do the attempts to shame people. And remember not everyone is in the UK and using the bloody NHS. And if people don't want to work for the NHS anymore, no one is forcing them to stay. 'Oh, but then who will do the job!' Why do people always think they are irreplaceable?

[BehindtheBump]

Everyone getting sick at the same time has massive economic and political ramifications.

Yes, but they'd not all get sick at the same time. Like not everyone falls ill with the flu simultaneously. Lockdown basically simulates the situation in which everyone falls ill simultaneously though, because everything grinds to a halt. I think there's no course of action here that doesn't lead to unacceptable loss of life. Too many families are living hand to mouth already after the first lockdown. No lockdown will be properly effective anyway, unless it's a full lockdown- no shops, no groceries, no medical care, just nail everyone in to their houses and wait a few weeks until the disease runs its course in those who've got it/live with someone who has it. Oh, and then close the borders. But that's not viable for a number of obvious reasons.