Oh god. Back to having a walk then???

[ssd]

As the highlight of the day.

AKA another lockdown looms....

[shinynewapple2020]

@annabel85

National lockdown is not fair. The areas that are behaving should not be punished due to the feckless areas that aren't.

The areas you describe as 'feckless' tend to be areas which are urban , where the population lives in crowded or overcrowding housing , where there is poverty so harder for people to distance within their own homes as rooms are smaller and there are often large families or inter generational families living there . People are also more likely to work in places where it is harder for people to distance eg food production , factory or distribution centre work .

[Hunstanton]

Has anyone read about how Germany are dealing with this very successfully. We should be looking at their methods and replicating them.

[Bearlover16]

If the government sat back and did absolutely nothing, people would moan. How can they win?

Opening things up then slowing them down like a tap enables the virus to spread at a manageable rate so the NHS can cope. This was inevitable.
Untill herd immunity has been achieved it will be like this, I just wish people would stop bloody moaning about it.
Schools are remaining open and people are encouraged to work from home, if people abide by the rules they may relax them earlier if the numbers drop.

Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.

[Imissmoominmama]

Some of the comments and attitudes on here depress me far more than the thought of a winter lockdown.

[FelicisNox]

It's no skin off my nose but I feel for those at the end of their tether facing another 6 months of this.

[ChodeOfChodeBall]

@tootyfruitypickle

wonder if a 3 month lockdown and then a lift for Christmas might If they brought in on Wed, the timing would work admirably . With a message that we’ve done it before, and ‘let’s get Christmas back..

That's just all politicking. Nothing to do with real lives. I don't give a shiny shit about Christmas, but I do give a million shiny shits about the fact that I'm unable to work thanks to the government's policies.

[Jux]

@Imissmoominmama

Some of the comments and attitudes on here depress me far more than the thought of a winter lockdown.

Yes

[herecomesthsun]

@Hunstanton

Has anyone read about how Germany are dealing with this very successfully. We should be looking at their methods and replicating them.

yes and yes. Can't we get someone German who knows what they're doing instead of the useless Tory cronies like Dido

[loobyloo1234]

Has anyone read about how Germany are dealing with this very successfully. We should be looking at their methods and replicating them.

Localised track and trace. From the start. And yes, if we had followed them at the very beginning like we should have, then we wouldnt now be in this mess

[southparkroses]

We aren't Germany. We don't have the labs they do.

Everyone thinks it's easy to make difficult decisions. It's tiring

[Friendsoftheearth]

UK is testing roughly double the number of Germany, that is a fact. So yes their T&T might be going well, but the people there are complaining about the lack of tests.

Every country in the world is under pressure with more or less the same issues. It is what it is.

[loobyloo1234]

but the people there are complaining about the lack of tests.

I have family in Germany and haven't heard this from a single person. They have localised testing - and can go to the GP for these. Can you link me to where this is a thing as I would be interested to see?

[Tolleshunt]

We aren't Germany. We don't have the labs they do.

Because our government funds our health service at a much lower level compared to Germany. They spend 2% more of their GDP on health every year than we do. That’s billions extra year on year, so decent, fit for purpose services - including labs - are available.

When you have governments happy to run a health service where you wait a fortnight for a GP appointment in the good times, and the results of a bog standard blood test can take five days to come back, you’re always going to have a major problem when a pandemic hits.

[RedToothBrush]

German labs have been processing some uk tests...

[Friendsoftheearth]

I would happily argue my point with links etc all night, but really what is the point though on such a horrible anti British thread, you hate everything here - it is all rubbish - so move to Germany is my advice!

I am going save my breath for something more rewarding. So I am out! But I can see the facts even if you can't, and have attached so you can update your world view.

But don't let the hard concrete evidence stand in your way.

According to data collected by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) - an EU agency - the UK has conducted more tests than any other European country.

Between 9 March and 6 September, its data shows:

The UK did more than 16.4m tests
Germany did 13.3m tests
Italy did 8.8m tests
France did 8.3m tests


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