When will there be a backlash against these rule breakers?

[annabel85]

We know the government made errors back in March. They should have locked down quicker and messed up with care homes. However, the issue now is people not following rules. House parties, raves, mixing in big groups. People are blaming the government for the new rule of 6 and not the shameless delinquents who have been breaking rules.

The government have issued a clear warning to people with the new legislation. Follow the rules or cases will get worse and further restrictions will come. How long till people snap at those who aren't taking this seriously? The tolerance of the law abiding majority can only stretch so far.

PS - leave Cummings out of it. This is about the here and now.

It's fascinating how it's deemed selfish to want to go to work, pay your mortgage and see your family but not remotely selfish to expect everyone to sacrifice all this do that Mildred in the care home can live another year and see 98.

In real life most people I know still follow rules and will be following the new law.

On here there seem to be a load of really selfish people who think that their rights to lead a normal life supersedes the right for people to live a safe life.

The virus is out there, basically we have to knuckle down with a few restrictions on our life or people start dying again - at the peak we had over 1000 people dying every single day and I can’t quite believe how quickly some people have forgotten this.

Get over yourself get some jigsaws in maybe some decorating stuff and suck it up!

@Ohchristmastreeohchristmastree

In real life most people I know still follow rules and will be following the new law.

On here there seem to be a load of really selfish people who think that their rights to lead a normal life supersedes the right for people to live a safe life.

The virus is out there, basically we have to knuckle down with a few restrictions on our life or people start dying again - at the peak we had over 1000 people dying every single day and I can’t quite believe how quickly some people have forgotten this.

Get over yourself get some jigsaws in maybe some decorating stuff and suck it up!

A safe life? Who's sold you that because no such thing exists. If covid doesn't kill you something else will.

Trust do you have dc in school?

@MarshaBradyo

Trust do you have dc in school?

Yes. Well I will do next week - why?

Would you prefer to be in an area with low infection so they have better chance of remaining open?

Even if you think the that we should just let the virus spread the school will react to cases. The threshold is low, two cases

@MarshaBradyo

Would you prefer to be in an area with low infection so they have better chance of remaining open?

Even if you think the that we should just let the virus spread the school will react to cases. The threshold is low, two cases

It doesn't matter what I would prefer, we were an area with low cases and yet our schools still shut. We are higher now and on local lockdown. I think schools should remain open regardless, to be honest.

I know exactly what the threshold is, thank you.

I mean I also haven't said we should just let the virus spread so that's a weird assumption to make isn't it?

“Get over yourself get some jigsaws in maybe some decorating stuff and suck it up!”

Hahahahaha

Why do you think everyone has the same options as you?

What do you want then Trust?

Any restrictions?

@FinnyStory

I think for the last few weeks you've been considered a bit wet if you still wanted to take precautions but the tide is turning now and we will start seeing the "covid police" re-emerge.

Strangely, the people who were so zealous about the rules being enforced at the beginning are the same ones who have been saying "enough's enough". Sadly the next few weeks are likely to show us it wasn't enough.

Tbh after 5 months of staying in I was just starting to socialise a bit. I ate out to help out, met up with some friends for drinks and felt more confidence going out.

But now the kids are back and cases rise we need to do right by our children.. and the youngsters who've partied the summer away and all those who insisted on a foreign holiday need to do their bit before things get out of hand again.

There's no excuses now.

The government also think we don’t know that if they’d protected care homes properly the death toll would be much lower than it is. I am in Scotland where half the deaths were in care homes which is a disgrace. People in these places should have been the safest in society and protected from this even coming over their door. Hopefully now they have got their act together on those and with the other measures we have in place it won’t end up at the same level it was in March.

@MarshaBradyo

What do you want then Trust?

Any restrictions?

Social distancing - fine. I don't want to be close to strangers anyway. Washing hands - good and should stay forever, people are gross. Big events restricted obviously. WFH where you can.

Just think 6 people is a stupid choice based on, well, nowt really.

I think we should be up in arms about the dismantling of public health England plus the fact that a woman who has failed spectacularly in previous jobs, was given the responsibility of test and trace. Which of course is now spectacularly failing.

Trust Ok fair enough but if we can learn from what worked elsewhere isn’t that a good idea?

Look at Belgium they implemented five.

@MarshaBradyo

Trust Ok fair enough but if we can learn from what worked elsewhere isn’t that a good idea?

Look at Belgium they implemented five.

So we can compare Belgium to us then? Because whenever someone mentions Sweden oh no Britain is full of idiots we can't compare to anywhere else ever.

I don't know enough about Belgium's rules to comment tbh, I just think ruining people's lives and mental health isn't the answer.

I hope that the serious rule-breakers do receive a backlash. I'm not on about something trivial like Doris having seven people in the house, I'm on about the idiot from Bolton who refused to quarantine on his return from Spain, threw a house party and went on pub crawls instead. Sadly he doesn't appear to see how stupid he's been, whinging that he shouldn't have been fined because he "didn't have any symptoms".

Trust I don’t think 6 will do that. You can see people.

But I do think closing schools and businesses will absolutely ruin lives and mh, so makes sense to cut back in private gatherings to smaller numbers to avoid it happening - plus it’s where it mostly spreads.

@MarshaBradyo

Trust I don’t think 6 will do that. You can see people.

But I do think closing schools and businesses will absolutely ruin lives and mh, so makes sense to cut back in private gatherings to smaller numbers to avoid it happening - plus it’s where it mostly spreads.

Depends on the size of your family and the family you want to meet. Average families are two adults and two kids.

Yes, take away our social lives so business can keep going. Schools should remain open regardless. I don't like this rhetoric of behave yourselves or we'll send your kids home again. It's vile.

and the youngsters who've partied the summer away and all those who insisted on a foreign holiday need to do their bit before things get out of hand again.

Why single out young people partying? My teens have barely been out yet mymother (74) and her pals are out and about everywhere. As is allowed!

Why was going aboroad riskier than the crowds that poured to UK holiday resorts? I was in the latter camp, but don't see how its less risky or more virtuous than those who went abroad.

I'm sorry, but your posts sound sanctimonious.

There won’t be a backlash as those against the rules are now the majority

The days of people reporting their neighbours, shaming on Facebook etc are gone

No one cares enough anymore

Even the police won’t enforce this

They’ve only fined 34 people since the start of the pandemic - hardly going to start now

Trust it’s the reality. You can choose to ignore it and others in your area too, but your outcome will be more restricted than where people comply.

Up to you, but I’m v glad people comply here and numbers are low.

If everyone lives in the areas that have the roughly same level of compliance as they generally want then we can all be ok with the outcomes.

I don't believe a thing the government say. They go from one mess to another.

The rule of 6 makes no sense at all when other things considered that are ok.
Some parts of the country are worse than others so a broad brush approach is IMO wrong.

@MarshaBradyo

Trust it’s the reality. You can choose to ignore it and others in your area too, but your outcome will be more restricted than where people comply.

Up to you, but I’m v glad people comply here and numbers are low.

If everyone lives in the areas that have the roughly same level of compliance as they generally want then we can all be ok with the outcomes.

Again weird assumption that I am ignoring it? Where have I said that?

And sorry but whether it's reality or not I do not accept punishing children for the actions of some adults and frankly I find it disturbing that you do.

Don’t be ridiculous Trust how bizarre that statement is.

Of course I want children in school which is why I find it reasonable to alter my actions to enable that.

So you will follow the new restriction then? Great.

@MarshaBradyo

Don’t be ridiculous Trust how bizarre that statement is.

Of course I want children in school which is why I find it reasonable to alter my actions to enable that.

So you will follow the new restriction then? Great.

It's not bizzarre it's exactly what you've just said. Behave or we will stop educating your children.

How can you not see that?

I've been following the restrictions but It does NOT mean I agree with them or respect anyone who does.