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Isn't it time to close pubs and beauty salons

255 replies

Eng123 · 08/09/2020 12:56

We are seeing a spike if we closed these activities down for 1 month then its likely schools can remain open. It would seem an obvious choice. I know these businesses circulate money in the economy but on balance their closure would protect a wider range of activities key to the economy.

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PinkPiranha11 · 08/09/2020 18:51

Absolutely not. I’m a beauty salon regular and they are always sparkling clean, everyone wearing masks (unless the treatment means you can’t, in which case the therapist always does anyway) and always prebooked appointments so socially distanced. I can’t speak for pubs as I haven’t been in any recently.

We can’t stop the world. It’s not the bloody plague. People need to make a living and have something to look forward to.

islockdownoveryet · 08/09/2020 19:00

Fuck me, people won't be happy until everybody except those can can do their naice white-collar jobs from home are in penury.
Exactly and it's probably these people that have worked from home who have been complaining about the furloughed because they like to say 'I've worked all the way through this pandemic' like they deserve some sort of award for it meanwhile condemning the furloughed like some sort of benefit cheat .
Now I'm not calling anyone for working through this pandemic but wfh in your cosy home is hardly frontline is it like Nhs staff or Tesco staff . The hairdressers, barmaids brewery delivery driver's etc can hardly work from home can they .
So think on before you start shouting to close anywhere.

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Eng123 · 08/09/2020 19:37

I'm really surprised at the responses here. I thought that shitting down pubs would really make the young who are spreading those take note. Also that shutting down these non essential parts of the economy would protect the essential parts such as schools, NHS and critical services etc. I'm interested rather than judging anyone but I think that another wide scale lockdown will be the end result if people refuse controls on these non essential entertainments.

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Reastie · 08/09/2020 19:39
  1. They need to get testing sorted properly
  2. They need to make sure track and trace is as effective as possible
  3. They need to make it a legal requirement for people to give details to eg pubs and hairdressers to use them
  4. We need to look at the symptoms requiring testing, especially in children who are increasingly shown to have different symptoms to adults eg gastrointestinal issues
  5. We need to get people distancing again and not doing what they like all the time

^ I’d say the above is higher priority than a knee jerk close all pubs and hairdressers.

IcedPurple · 08/09/2020 19:47

@Eng123

I'm really surprised at the responses here. I thought that shitting down pubs would really make the young who are spreading those take note. Also that shutting down these non essential parts of the economy would protect the essential parts such as schools, NHS and critical services etc. I'm interested rather than judging anyone but I think that another wide scale lockdown will be the end result if people refuse controls on these non essential entertainments.
Nowt worse than a shitted down pub.

And of course, finger wagging at 'the young' again. Yawn.

And pubs may be non-essential to you - now there's a shocker - but they're very essential to the many people who make a living, directly or indirectly, through them. Not to mention the fact that you've not provided a shred of evidence to support your claim that 'shitting down' pubs and nail salons will make the slightest difference to the spread of the virus.

CathTurnbull · 08/09/2020 19:48

I hope pubs shut, alcohol and social distancing don’t go together

IcedPurple · 08/09/2020 19:53

@CathTurnbull

I hope pubs shut, alcohol and social distancing don’t go together
And do you think people will stop drinking if pubs shut? Wouldn't they be likely to do so at home, where there id no attempt at SD and no way to enforce it? Or would you prefer an outright ban on socialising and alcohol sales while you're at it?
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Eng123 · 08/09/2020 19:56

Isn't a socially distance pub an oxymoron?
I know it's a difficult call but something has to be done and it has to be simple.

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PinkSparklyPussyCat · 08/09/2020 19:59

@CathTurnbull

I hope pubs shut, alcohol and social distancing don’t go together
Never mind those who rely on pubs to make a living.

@islockdownoveryet I've worked from home throughout but it's hardly been cosy due to lack of space, I would have loved to go back into the office.

Regarding furlough, the only time I've got pissed off with someone is when my neighbours were laughing at my lack of sun tan, why hadn't I been sitting outside and making the most of the weather etc? Well that would be because I've been working. They then proceeded to tell me how much they'd enjoyed being furloughed and getting paid to stay at home. I really had to bite my tongue as I was working longer hours for a 10% pay cut!

Despite being a white collar worker, I don't want anything to close, especially beauty salons and hairdressers!

IcedPurple · 08/09/2020 20:00

@Eng123

Isn't a socially distance pub an oxymoron? I know it's a difficult call but something has to be done and it has to be simple.
Even if there is no evidence connecting beauty salons or pubs to any outbreaks?

The 'something has to be done' mentality is dumb.

SueEllenMishke · 08/09/2020 20:00

@Eng123

Isn't a socially distance pub an oxymoron? I know it's a difficult call but something has to be done and it has to be simple.
Have been in a pub recently? The ones near me are doing a great job at making sure everyone SDs. Environmental heath are doing spot checks and there hasn't been a single outbreak linked to a pub in our area despite us living in a hotspot
SueEllenMishke · 08/09/2020 20:03

*have you

Kaktus · 08/09/2020 20:06

@Eng123

Isn't a socially distance pub an oxymoron? I know it's a difficult call but something has to be done and it has to be simple.
It also has to be effective and proportionate. And unless it’s clear that pubs and beauty salons are a hotspot for transmission then closing them will be neither effective or proportionate. Closing sandwich factories may have more of an effect.
ShamPayne · 08/09/2020 20:08

Eng123 - In the interests of beating coronavirus why don’t you give up your job? Oh, is it just the working class who should sacrifice a roof over their heads? Can’t have the superior WFH crew being in anyway inconvenienced.

Kaktus · 08/09/2020 20:08

@Eng123

I'm really surprised at the responses here. I thought that shitting down pubs would really make the young who are spreading those take note. Also that shutting down these non essential parts of the economy would protect the essential parts such as schools, NHS and critical services etc. I'm interested rather than judging anyone but I think that another wide scale lockdown will be the end result if people refuse controls on these non essential entertainments.
If it was clear that a large number of the new cases were coming from these places, people may have agreed with you. But it’s not. Do you really advocate closing entire industries on a whim, without even knowing if they’re causing an issue?
CathTurnbull · 08/09/2020 20:10

I have more sympathy for the thousands of musicians who have lost their income rather than pub or restaurant owners.

FieldsAndSun · 08/09/2020 20:11

I agree OP, the numbers are growing fast, education is paramount. Pubs are not essential but education is

SueEllenMishke · 08/09/2020 20:12

@CathTurnbull

I have more sympathy for the thousands of musicians who have lost their income rather than pub or restaurant owners.
But lots of musicians rely on pubs being open ....🤷🏼‍♀️
ShamPayne · 08/09/2020 20:13

@CathTurnbull

I have more sympathy for the thousands of musicians who have lost their income rather than pub or restaurant owners.
What jobs do you suggest they do instead?
IcedPurple · 08/09/2020 20:15

@CathTurnbull

I have more sympathy for the thousands of musicians who have lost their income rather than pub or restaurant owners.
What's your point? That whole industries should close, putting thousands out of work, because of your individual feelings about the people who work in them?
Kaktus · 08/09/2020 20:16

@CathTurnbull

I have more sympathy for the thousands of musicians who have lost their income rather than pub or restaurant owners.
I manage to find it within me to find empathy for all those struggling, not just those from one particular industry.
jasjas1973 · 08/09/2020 20:16

Pub in Plymouth shut because of a CV positive test, Bolton lock down is supposed to be in part due to pubs.

Bottom line is that in the last 2 months (since lockdown easing) the govt hasn't increased testing capacity enough (now bojo asking uni's to help out with qualified staff....bit late now you idiot) and due to dithering with their own non compliant android/apple app, they have no fully operation TnT system in place.

Pubs are problematic, we'll soon be in winter ... cold and wet nights, people packed inside loaded with booze.
We need some sort of plan to limit numbers being inside, limit opening hours and amounts served, what we'll get though is a knee jerk reaction in November that shuts the lot down

CathTurnbull · 08/09/2020 20:16

A lot of musicians are working as supermarket delivery drivers or have casual work. It’s not really up to me to make suggestions- people have their own minds and hopefully some common sense. There are many sectors of people who have lost their jobs and livelihoods- just don’t see pubs and restaurants as a necessity

ShamPayne · 08/09/2020 20:16

Roughly 4.9 million people work in the UK’s hospitality and tourism sector so I’m all wars to hear what jobs they should be doing instead.
www.bighospitality.co.uk/Article/2015/09/16/One-in-10-people-work-in-hospitality-and-tourism

MaxNormal · 08/09/2020 20:17

Also that shutting down these non essential parts of the economy

There are no non-essential parts to the economy. It's all interlinked, and it's people's livelihoods.
Furlough is winding down, how do you suggest those pubs don't go under? How their staff pay their bills?

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