to have run out of sympathy for people who find masks 'uncomfortable'?

[Frlrlrubert]

It might be because I'm out of tolerance for a lot of things at the moment but I've had enough of the 'but my face gets hot' and 'couldn't possibly wear one for 2 ours straight' brigade.

Barring medical exemptions, I think people just need to suck it up.

I wore an FFP3 mask at work day in day out for hours at a time for years. Yes, it's weird at first and it gives you spots and makes your eyes dry and sometimes your lips dry, but your body will adapt if you keep at it. (honestly, be glad it's not a rubber half mask or a powered respirator, both of which I've also had to wear all day for years and are grim/loud respectively)

If your glasses are fogging or it doesn't fit right try a different type - there are lots available. Mouldable nose strips really help with the specs.

You will need to speak very clearly when you talk so you can hear each other (I know it's shit if you have hearing loss - that is a situation I still have sympathy for).

Honestly, get one/a style that fits you properly, and get on with it, you'll get used to it. It really isn't that bad, and will save lives!

So... YANBU = people need to mask up and get over it
YABU = masks are the worst and comfort is more important

[EveryDayIsADuvetDay]

Also where is anyone seeing the vast majority NOT wear masks??
London buses - typically 25% or less wearing masks in my experience.
It would be 75% if you include the twats sitting there with the mask around their neck.

[Drumple]

[quote ToffeePennie]@myhumps123 but that’s precisely why I should wear one. I am incredibly traumatised but I should not let that trauma defeat me and if I can push through it all and do the shopping in one, then that’s many more people who I won’t have potentially infected.
No one has to like wearing them, but people need to stop giving stupid pretend reasons and do what’s good for others and not just themselves.[/quote]
So I’m lesser because my trauma is defeating me.

[islockdownoveryet]

I wore an FFP3 mask at work day in day out for hours at a time for years. Yes, it's weird at first and it gives you spots and makes your eyes dry and sometimes your lips dry, but your body will adapt if you keep at it.
But most haven't worn one for years and yes your right they will get used to it , but is sounds like you found it uncomfortable at first going by your op so you should have some empathy for people. People are allowed to complain op doesn't mean they won't do it .

[DeepTreacle]

This is horrible, and deliberate. It is so convenient for the government that we are blaming each other and laying personal responsibility for transmission of a virus on individuals, rather than examining the govt’s actions.

[81Byerley]

@PumpkinPie2016 I feel for you, as I spend half my time carrying my glasses. I haven't tried this, but I saw a YouTube video where someone recommended a folded tissue put at the top of the mask. This stops air escaping at the top. A surgeon also recommended washing the lenses using liquid soap and air drying or using a tissue to dry them.

[ToffeePennie]

@Drumple - you will notice I said I not you.

[kerfuffling]

@Frlrlrubert

It might be because I'm out of tolerance for a lot of things at the moment but I've had enough of the 'but my face gets hot' and 'couldn't possibly wear one for 2 ours straight' brigade.

Barring medical exemptions, I think people just need to suck it up.

I wore an FFP3 mask at work day in day out for hours at a time for years. Yes, it's weird at first and it gives you spots and makes your eyes dry and sometimes your lips dry, but your body will adapt if you keep at it. (honestly, be glad it's not a rubber half mask or a powered respirator, both of which I've also had to wear all day for years and are grim/loud respectively)

If your glasses are fogging or it doesn't fit right try a different type - there are lots available. Mouldable nose strips really help with the specs.

You will need to speak very clearly when you talk so you can hear each other (I know it's shit if you have hearing loss - that is a situation I still have sympathy for).

Honestly, get one/a style that fits you properly, and get on with it, you'll get used to it. It really isn't that bad, and will save lives!

So... YANBU = people need to mask up and get over it
YABU = masks are the worst and comfort is more important

You wore one at work. Presumably you knew when you took the job that it would be necessary to wear PPE. That's what you signed up for. No doubt if you were claustrophobic and got panic attacks at the thought of wearing it then you wouldn't have entered that career.

So YAB totally U to start judging people who find wearing a mask very difficult. You have no idea why they find it hard.

The people who don't want to, won't. The people who can't - well they can't.

[Mywifeandkids1]

@SoupDragon no. Missed my point completely. I wear a mask. I mean to mask police, with their superior-ness.

[Pinkmug]

Absolutely agree @DeepTreacle. Very convenient.

[Drumple]

Am I supposed to get a sign round my neck that says “I was raped” in foot high letters? Would that mean it’s ok for me not to wear a mask?

[Mywifeandkids1]

@Rebelwithallthecause not sure why they replied for me but no. That’s not what I meant at all but did you enjoy sitting on your high horse for a minute?

[DappledThings]

@DeepTreacle

Why do you want people to be happy about wearing masks? Isn’t it enough that they are wearing them?

Exactly. I hate it, I hate seeing other people in them, I hate that it's being extended. I'm doing it where required but am I fuck going to be happy about it.

[Whoknowswhocares]

I wear a mask if I’m going somewhere I am obliged to wear one. I avoid all optional places because I don’t like them. I would like to be out and spending to help the economy, but not enough to put up with a mask.

Compliance is mandatory. Liking it is not.
YABU.

[GlassMarble]

Another thread?

It’s perfectly possible to 100% support and follow all the mask wearing rules whilst completely hating every minute of wearing one.

Moaning that you hate it is fine. It’s not the same as refusing to wear one. Ironically now you’re moaning about people moaning!

We’ve got a new virtue signal now haven’t we ... how good you are at wearing a mask without, god forbid, saying anything bad about it!

[Lifeisabeach09]

YANBU.

I'm a big mask advocate. I rarely see folks without masks in stores but when I do, I figure exemptions. I recognise there are some people who cannot wear them but also agree there are some who find excuses not to.
The moaning/whinging tends to be on Mumsnet but it is an outlet forum.
@Drumple, I've read your posts on other threads. You do not need to explain your trauma to anyone. What OP said was not directed at you.

[Tootsey11]

Wait there Op while I go out and get you a medal for your fantastic mask wearing ability.

The rest of us can moan all the f**k we like about having to wear them.

[myhumps123]

@ToffeePennie but you said yourself you are having panic attacks. I had a panic attack a number of years ago and it felt like I was dying. It was awful. You shouldn't be wearing a mask, Keeping 2 metres distance should be sufficient to protect others

[Thisdressneedspockets]

@randomer

I think a very large number of people are wearing one to avoid conflict. They are not wearing it properly or observing hygene. Me too.

This.
If people really cared about masks they would learn how to use them properly.
I see people removing or tucking them under their chin, wearing them on their wrists or crumpled in a pocket. Then they're back on for the next shop, not bothering with hand sanitizer, despite having touched their soggy mask.

It makes me feel less safe that masks are being used incorrectly by a large proportion of people, but it shows how many people are just paying lip service to it.

The combination of finding wearing a mask disorientating and feeling like people are taking less care over distancing and hand hygiene is making me avoid situations where they are worn.

[uniglowooljumper]

What's it to you if other people find them uncomfortable, don't like them, etc as long as they are using them? Get a fucking life! Crack on with your business. You do you. I use them with no problems. I hate them. They give me acne. I paid a fortune over the years to have acne scars from cystic acne lightened/removed from my face. I don't relish more huge zits. Luckily I live in a rural area so rarely go places I need to use one. Good. I hate them. But I use them when compelled. Who fucking cares?

[Drumple]

I don’t understand why there needs to be threads all over the boards about this every fucking five minutes.

It’s not enough now that I’m trying in the house to wear a face covering (bandana mask over my nose lightly. I also have a visor I ordered but the feeling of the looming of the face bit makes me panic. I’ve also tried masks disposable and 3 types of washable) but now I’m not allowed to express how distressed trying makes me I have to be fucking rictus grin and fake happy?


Thought police.

[IfIHadAHeart]

I hate wearing a mask. I find them very uncomfortable, hot and oppressive. I also have a very slight hearing loss and didn’t realise how much I relied on seeing people’s mouths move to understand them easily.

I have worn one everywhere I am required to, but I’m making a point of going out much less to avoid having to. I don’t really understand what’s wrong with saying this.

[Bizawit]

YABU. There’s a reason why people have faces. They are an essential part of being human. I don’t want to live in a fascist world where the government mandates people to cover their faces in public.

[teaflake]

I hate wearing them, got very hot and sweaty. I was also surprised to find myself getting a bit panicky!
So it's online for everything for me now.

[DeepTreacle]

It’s such typical Mumsnet really. It isnt enough to comply with the mandate, you have to COMMIT to it wholeheartedly and believe that you cannot be held responsible for a single virus particle’s transmission- it is a deeply moral issue apparently. Meanwhile most people are doing their best, complying because they don’t want a fine or any bother whilst they buy milk and believing that if it helps a bit then that’s a good thing. I comply because I can, though I have no idea whether there is a meaningful reduction in risk, and I certainly don’t expect anyone else to take responsibility for protecting me from something so out of their control as a virus, that is already widespread within the community. I especially don’t want anyone to faint or have a panic attack or flashbacks to trauma in the name of protecting me, that would be a horrendous ask

[pizzicato]

YANBU. You have missed one excuse ! " I am selfish and don't give a toss about anyone else " FFS glasses wearers, go to the Optician and buy a pack of 24 hour anti fog wipes for £7 and wipe over the lenses. 30 in a box.Keeps them from misting up for at least a week before you need to use another wipe. Honestly, this pandemic has been such an eye opener for me into the selfishness of some people and how they just don't care about anyone else.