For the shopping washing stay at home panic merchants

[Givenupno]

Interesting article. Especially the graph showing the true figures of your chance of death against your annual risk of am death anyway.

We need to get back to normal- now.

Those who want to stay locked up and crippling the economy would still be free to do so

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52758024?SThisFB&fbclid=IwAR0dtsKAlVWdunp-3dteVmjalUXDWFGHk1L5puuZPuAVQqfp5rWbFACC3lM

Ignore the goady OP, it's part of a deliberate campaign to knock posts critical of the government off the front page.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

I won't be responding on this thread again.

Do be aware there is a current disinformation campaign going on on MN as there is on all forms of social media.

Ignore the goady OP, it's part of a deliberate campaign to knock posts critical of the government off the front page

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Washing shopping is pointless and fucking odd anyway, the risk of picking up the virus from shopping is so small you aren't really doing anything of benefit. Same with the people who wear gloves in the supermarket, it's not how to use gloves and is not helping or the people who think them wearing a mask means they don't have to socially distance.

And of course, immediately the replies to this are 'well my entire family are shielding and we'll die if anyone opens a window so we've nailed the letterbox shut' when the article and thread are clearly about people with no underlying conditions. But reading or applying logic would ruin the fun of the hand wringing...

Totally agree OP, the relative risks to people who are not vulnerable or shrieking is now at a point where it makes more sense, and benefits everyone more to move back towards 'normal' life. It's of benefit to everyone to have a functioning economy whether you are vulnerable/shielding or not.

I currently wash my shopping with hot soapy water. I'm a scientist. I'm categorically not a 'panic merchant' (whatever one of those is).

I really don't see why me washing my shopping affects you at all.

There is a middle ground you know. I don't know why everything has to be so polarised.

I do think that some people have got their knickers in a twist about their level of risk and really after watching weeks and weeks of news of the 'death rate' it isn't any surprise really. Some scream murder and manslaughter at anyone who does anything they consider risky.

Others are more logical and look at things like risk figures etc and then make their informed choices about their lives.

Then lots in between.

If people want to wash their washing let them, if people want to meet friends in their garden let them. I do a live and let live and do what I think is suitable for me. I think many people are entrenched in their opinion which they think is 100% right so I just leave them to it.

We have quarantined parcels, have hardly been out and have limited contact with other people. Our view is that we both have jobs which put us at a higher risk (one in a care home, the other providing child care for NHS workers children) and so we decided back in March to limit our exposure from elsewhere as much as possible.

wash their whopping not their washing...oops anyway each to their own

wash shopping not whopping and not washing....

Oh my what a nightmare!

Well if our government has revealed anything in the last few days it’s that the ‘lockdown rules’ and the advice and directives given are to be interpreted and executed however we see fit.
So I’ll be stopping at home with my clinically severely vulnerable husband thanks. Don’t want the tens of thousands the nhs probably just spent on his stem cell transplant to go to waste if he dies from covid.

You go back to normal if you want to.

Why does it bother you so much op? You do what you want, other people will do what they want.

Well, as no-one has told me I've misunderstood what the graph says I'm going to assume that I've understood it right, and it means that catching CV would double my chances of dying for the year. In that case, surely it makes sense for me to try not to double my risk of dying, however low that risk is in the first place? I mean, if I can potentially cut my chances of dying by half, by washing a carrot, why not?

(I'm not in the UK and have not washed my carrots any more than usual.)

I thought it was really bad punctuation and should have been

For the shopping / washing / stay at home / panic merchants

Infection Control will tell you "Break The Chain"
So if washing your shopping does that then it's a positive step .

And as Pauline Fowler would say :

"Can I ask you something?"
Yes
"What the Hell's it got to do with you?"

Just like I thought it was weird for people to get so hot under the collar when someone took a second rural walk in the early days - I also think it equally weird to give a shiny shit who washes their shopping and who doesn't.

How is one a panic merchant? Do they buy, warehouse and sell panic when the price rises?

It might be an idea not to decide what you want to think then seek and misread evidence to support what you have decided you think.

While washing the shopping may not completely stop you getting covid, it's taking out one more risk factor so as far as I'm concerned, if you can be bothered to do it then it's a good idea.

People shopping washing behind closed doors has as little effect on you as their sexual practices.

@70isaLimitNotaTarget you win the internet

I have always washed fruit and veg so I guess I'm a shopping washer.
And I love the title of this thread - but then again I have a sense of humour
OP I wouldn't worry about this.

"it means that catching CV would double my chances of dying for the year. In that case,"

Is that a 100% increase then? Doesn't sound so small when you put it like that.

I don't wash my shopping but what the fuck business of yours if others do it. Now instead of presenting an article in an unbiased way you've upset people and made them defensive. People have different perceptions of risk. Yours in bound to be lower now you've got some degree of immunity. Others who are shielding will have a much higher risk perception because they've been told infection will lead to death or long term illness

There is a lot we don’t know about this disease, and whilst we wait years for a vaccine which may or may not work, treatments are being developed. I’ll happily wipe down shopping for a while until knowledge and treatments have developed, so when I do get it, I have a better chance of surviving it. For me, it’s about buying time. It’s also about not overwhelming nhs or treatment supply, so keeping the curve flattened

I didn’t even know shopping washing was a thing

For heavens sake why the nasty (poorly constructed) title.

My parents wash their shopping. There was a bbc programme advising it.

Most people aren’t stupid, the know the risks and want to minimise them. Everyone is free to take whatever precautions they chose.

Well done, you read a bbc article and now feel superior.