Cummings and Goings (2)

[SouthWestmom]

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Looking forward to seeing Pippa on Andrew Marr, she’s pulled off a blinder

Grant Shapps is on Sophy Ridge this morning as well, he’s defo pulled the short straw this weekend

I have to say I don't agree with the Mirror saying that BJ is clinging on to DC either because he has no backbone OR because he cares not a jot about the British people. Surely it's both?!

Yes. Also because he's incredibly lazy and needs someone else to do all the work.

I don't believe either of them were ill.

I believe they were ill, but nowhere near the level of illness that MW claimed in her article. Definitely not ill enough to claim safeguarding, and imply that they were unable to actually care for a 4year old.

Place marking.

Sophy Ridge has pre-published her questions for Shapps on Twitter so he has time to find out the answers.
twitter.com/ridgeonsunday/status/1264274539422388225?s=21

There is a change.org petition Dominic Cummings must be sacked already at over 20,000 signatures. We're not allowed to link, are we? But now you know the title and that it was started by Gary Kelly you should be able to find it on the change.org site.

Honestly, the old adage "give them enough rope....." is so reassuringly true! Both BJ and DC have had far too much rope for far too long, and at last between them they've managed to fashion a noose.

But I do wonder whether it’s a dead cat. Not the story itself, but the refusal to denounce him before the Sunday politics shows, because of this:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/three-weeks-of-dither-and-delay-on-coronavirus-that-cost-thousands-of-british-lives-05sjvwv7g

Sorry this is paywalled - I’ve only subscribed to 2 free articles a week.

Please can someone link to the article where it was implied that it was fine to flout the rules if you loved and cared for your children enough? (implying that sticking to the rules means you just don’t love your children as much as the rule breaker). I can’t remember who said this.

This makes me wonder what other laws MP seem to think don’t apply to them.

People on Twitter wondering if they’re now based in Durham and commuting to London because of the May spottings.
Does anyone in the know, know if there’s any chance he’ll be sacked for all of this?

Well that's kind of the point re ill isn't it. I'll enough to claim safeguarding. Eg necessary to protect lives. But not that ill he couldn't drive for 260 miles with his families lives in his hands.

Steve Baker has recently spoken out against the government. Said DC should go.

I have written to my ( Conservative) M.P., I have never felt the need to to this before but I am beyond disgusted by the gaslighting that is going on.
Copy attached 😀

Does anyone in the know, know if there’s any chance he’ll be sacked for all of this?

I doubt he'll be properly sacked. He will claim to step down, without an apology, and then he will be let back in again as soon as it all calms down.

I dont even think he wI'll even do that @GrimmsFairytales

Settling in
Popcorn ready

This made me progressively angrier yesterday - the more I thought about it, the angrier I got and then it's spilling over. It's like there weren't hundreds of thousands of parents in the same situation exactly - with worries about our own health and care for children, including single parent families and families with far greater difficulties than him.

We won't forget that he is being defended by the cabinet when many of us stayed at home in order to save lives and not wanting to take virus to other parts of the country (I'm in London).

Think your right @GrimmsFairytales. He is the power behind Boris so he won't go far. But the public have long memories.

downtheplug

I live in hope, but given the amount of MPs defending him and how the situation has been twisted, I have a sinking feeling that you might be right.

I really wish I'd known we could do that.

When I was laid on the lounge floor for 3 days just trying to breathe. Alone with my physically disabled ds who also has autism, receiving phone calls from my shielding parents on chemo to make sure I was alright frequently I didn't need to be doing that.

I didn't need to stay at home.
I didn't need to protect the nhs
I didn't need to be any way responsible towards helping to save lives.

In fact when I showed the first signs (very high fever not responding to paracetamol) I should have got in my car and driven halfway across the country to a support network. It didn't matter my county had highest number of cases then and continued to have them. It was not my responsibility to stay at home and not take it to another county or town.

@itsgettingweird I am so sorry. I have no words for what you went through. How are you and DS now?

I'm fine now thanks. At the time I knew I was ill. Afterwards I realised how scared I'd been and just how ill as I started to feel better.
That is why it breaks my heart so much to see people in ICU. They must be struggling 100 times more than I did. And they must be petrified being so alone.

And why it makes me so angry. We were conditioned to accept this was the situation. Shit. Difficult but how it must be.

Well accept if you are DC of course. Then you can just translate the rules how you feel because you love your child (unlike the rest of us obviously )

Except. 🤦‍♀️ Sunday morning grammar fail there

I thi k it they'd said straight from the start and at the time. "Uncle was seriously I'll, we were really scared about what would happen to LO if the same happened to us" they might have had more sympathy, although not when people realised the do have family in London, but they've given so many versions of their reasoning now and there's the wife's article that gives the misleading impression that they spent their isolation in London, another knew what they did was wrong at the time or why hide it?

Then if it's true there have been numerous other trips.

It's posts like yours itsgettingweird that make me so angry that they have tried to twist this into a loving and caring father, trying to do the best for his child. Claiming that anyone who loves their children would have done the same. It's fucking disgusting.

I hope you and your DS are ok now.