Today I feel incredibly angry

[awaywiththecircus]

I’m feeling incredibly selfish. My family luckily are all fit and well. If we catch CV we will in all likelihood be I’ll for a few days at worst. I see the impact this is having on us and feel incredibly angry. My dc should be at school, socialising, having fun. DH and I should be at work keeping a stable roof over our heads. But obviously it’s all gone to shit.
And all the fit people who are insisting they are going to stay locked up at home until there’s a vaccinationFFS.
Even my close friend with a shielded dc is feeling that we have massively overacted to this when weighing up the collateral damage we are causing. I know I’ll get flamed but I’m truly at the end of my tether.

We have been scared into thinking that we WILL DIE or WILL KILL others if we get back to normal and that just isnt true. amen, the government did well with their “stay home, save lives” slogan.

I am angry because there doesn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel. When will life as we knew it return and our freedoms be regained? It's not just about businesses and schools reopening, it's about recreation, sports and hobbies. Those areas of our lives which make living all the more worthwhile. When will our kids be able to next play a team sport, or even go to the park and play on the swings?

How about you guys stay in and we can go out, then we won't come in to contact with you - simples.

Sure! Separate but equal....until it starts happening to us. A bit like the attitude shown by many to UC!!!!

@silverdollarcity so keep you and yours inside then !

You do realise that you can't predict how ill you'll be. Mild symptoms are basically anything that mean you aren't on oxygen or in the ICT. Some people who have had mild symptoms have been ill for a month, some have been left with damaged kidneys, some have been left with post viral fatigue which could stay for a long time. Nothing about this illness feels mild for so many people. Commonly you'll hear "it's like no other illness I've ever had." It sounds like you think it'll be like a cold. It isn't.

@silverdollarcity so we’re basically going to ruin the economy, kid’s futures, mental health, countless people’s lives in case we are the 0.001% who die or god forbid get ill and have complications for a few weeks.

if this was any other illness, and you got told you had a 95% chance of surviving, you'd think bloody hell thats not bad.

And as it goes, for a majority of people their chances are actually much much better than that!

It sounds like you think it'll be like a cold. It isn't.

It sounds like you think it'll be like a cold. In a small minority of cases it isn't.

*Corrected that for you.

So just because you personally (many on this thread, seemingly) are facing a terrible financial time but don't know anyone who has died, that's a good basis for making the decision?

Why can't you be appreciative that no matter how shit the future looks, at least you are still alive.

Ohlordysugarandspice

I'm a key worker so have been working all along

It's okay to say we want to start phasing in stopping lockdown and still know we might get ill, we aren't ignorant ,

Even my close friend with a shielded dc is feeling that we have massively overacted

Well that’s it then, if even your close friend with a shielded dc has spoken...have you consulted Debbie from face book too? ....she also said we’ve overreacted apparently.

Why can't you be appreciative that no matter how shit the future looks, at least you are still alive.

Perhaps I would if the whole country took that attitude to kids dying of malaria in third world countries and sold their houses to fund relief.

Do we do that??

How is high risk people I don't personally know any different than those children I don't personally know?

The cold hard truth is it's perfectly acceptable to put yourself and your family first - until it came to Coronavirus.

Who says we aren't appreciative that we are still alive
Jesus !

0.001?
Much higher. If you're tubed in hospital here, 33% die. We're upping the testing now, numbers positive are in similar vein to numbers before the mass tests. Look at how many negative tests there are. A relatively small number of us are positive, so far, with the deaths we've had.

I would like lockdown to end very much. I understand the need to rant. But it's coming across as selfish now.

I’ve got a colleague who was very healthy who is now seriously ill with covid.

You cannot predict who will be ok.

Lockdown is fucking shit. I’m skint. I live in a one bed flat with no garden. I haven’t seen anyone I know other than my partner since March. I’ve had enough. But I don’t know what else we could have done? And the issue is that now we’ve done it there still isn’t really a long term exit strategy available without a vaccine.
When we release from lockdown I honestly just think it’ll be a matter of time until we are locked down again, because surely it’ll just come back...

I’m 26 and have no health issues (that I know of), if I get it I’ll probably be fine. But then I just think of all the grieving families who have lost loved ones and I just feel like the attitude of “well I’LL be fine” is a bit shit. Like “it’s just elderly or vulnerable people who have to worry”, for tons of families that’s their mum, their brother, their child.
I want lockdown to end, I’m sick of being in with no outdoor space! I feel angry and sad at not seeing any friends or family in months. It’s not just people who have a big garden and no financial concerns who feel torn on the situation.

I hear you OP. The day's are long, I can't sleep because I'm worried that I may not have a job to go back to. I can't be with the people I love, I'm missing my DD. I really don't know how much more of this my MH can take, and do you know what the worst thing is? People telling me I'm wrong to feel like this and that I should "get used to it because it's going to get worse unless we stay lock ed down". Yeah thanks for that, it's really helped.

Why can't you be appreciative that no matter how shit the future looks, at least you are still alive

I am very appreciate to be alive, believe me.

The thing is, if the economy goes to shit, which it will if we carry on lockdown for say longer than furlough extends....

Then a lot of us will die earlier anyway.

A good economy and a good healthcare system go hand in hand.

How effective do you think the NHS will be when there is vastly less money funding it?

do you think you'll get the same care in the future that you would have got if we had actually considered the economy and let people go back to work?

i'll give you a clue. You wont.

Corona will kill people. Extented lockdown and a shit economy will kill a lot more, and shorten most peoples lives.

Why can't you be appreciative that no matter how shit the future looks, at least you are still alive.

What a bizarre point to make.

When the hell did life above everything else become a thing. If you want us to remain in lockdown for a considerable amount of time longer, then without universal basic income it is not sustainable.

Well it will get worse until we stayed locked down, however you might feel about it.

Just because you don’t LIKE being locked down, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

@tillyteatowel but no one is denying fit people have got ill and died, but we can't shut down for that small minority, and it is a small minority , until a vaccine is found

There will be more teenage suicides than teenage deaths from covid this year , have you considered that?

also I’m interested in how you think this is going to ruin kid’s futures? Like... being out of formal schooling for a few months is not going to ruin their future. The attainment gap will probably widen which is shit as it’s already big, and it’ll be more work for teachers to try and close it, but it’s not going to “ruin all children’s futures”.

Well it will get worse until we stayed locked down

This doesn't make any sense ?

there will be more teenage suicides than teenage deaths from covid this year , have you considered that?

ah well you see they dont count. Neither do the women and children who have died because of domestic violence. Nor do any of the people who will sibsequently starve to death. Nor do the thousands WHO HAVE ALREADY DIED for others reasons, the main ones being they cannot access the care they need, or fucking darent because of all the scaremongering.

These people dont matter, you see. Your death only matters if you died from the corona.